View Full Version : In Desperate Need Of Stink Eye!!
autumnlynn 09-06-2006, 09:21 AM I got a certified letter today from the Clerk of Courts Office. My ex's attorney filed a motion for Suspension of Support since my ex's teaching contract was not renewed. He doesn't want money accruing in arrears while he is supposedly not working. He is doing some work under the table as I've been told.
I called my attorney and he said he was drawing up papers to serve on him.
He said first he was going to file a charge of Contempt of Court since he has not made regular payments on the original support order as set out by the court. He is demanding that the arrears be paid within the next ninety days or that he should be incarcerated for non-compliance of the court order. (I took this to mean dead beat dad). He also requested that the amount of support be doubled as he has been paying a ridiculously low amount of support. He also requested a court hearing.
I really don't know what to do. I don't want my ex put in jail because I am afraid everyone would blame me and hate me. I just don't know what to do.
frugalfarmwife 09-06-2006, 09:31 AM IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT!!!!!!!! If he ends up in jail it's his on dang fault for being so irresponsible!!!!!! :fuming: Go along with your attorneys advice and hold your head high! He got himself into this situation and it's time he GREW UP and gets himself out!!
If he ends up in jail you didn't do it! He did it to himself!
My neighbor was married to an ijit like that, grrrrrrr, it's really hard for me to be nice to him when he comes to pick up thier kids for visitation, I can't tolerate ijits!! And yes, lol, he gets the stink eye behind his back 2x a week when he picks the kids up!!!
:skept: :skept: :skept: :skept: :skept:
There ya go, stink eye aimed at the X!
And hugs to you, you're the strong one for your kids, hold your head up and be proud!
kj
miss_thrifty 09-06-2006, 10:39 AM I agree with frugalfarmwife. Stick to your guns, do what your lawyer says. Done let him make u feel guilty for something he should od taken seriously. Having kids and not taking care of them financialy id terrible. if he can, he should, he needs to GROW UP!!! And u cant change anything about that, he probably wont grow up, but u need to do whats best for your family. Dont worry about what others think, follow through.
U Go Girl!!!!
kabin63 09-06-2006, 10:48 AM There goes that stink eye again...LOL
It's not your fault Autumn. My DSD has this issue with baby's father, who is, I might add, $4000.00 in the hole on child support. She is taking him to court and he is none too happy, with threats, etc...., i hate that these guys know how to get a girl pregnant, but can't seem to understand they are responsible for supporting their offspring.
Penascodragonfly 09-06-2006, 12:26 PM Stick to your guns. It is not your fault that he has chosen this path! The law is the law and he has failed to uphold his responsibility.
Dang! I wish we could bottle that stink eye stuff! hee hee
Lookout the Villagers are on the Loose!
frugalfarmwife 09-06-2006, 02:30 PM Ya know, even more than the stink eye he just needs a good ol horse whuppin!! Send him my way and I'll be sure he gets it!!
:beat: :dead:
kj
Daisygirl 09-06-2006, 03:19 PM I'm tellin' you honey, this stink eye thing WORKS!!!!
You know what? You are not married to him. That means you are in no way, shape or form responsible for your ex-idiot's actions (if you are looking for diplomacy towards the ex I am the wrong chick, lol).
I would be absolutely delighted if my ex ended up in jail and out of my hair. Anyone that thinks I am terrible for that did not live with the big jerk, nor have they had to support two children alone without his assistance for the mere fact that he is lazy.
Go for it! All the way! Best of luck, and I am aiming my stink eye, too.
autumnlynn 09-06-2006, 03:55 PM Thanks, everyone. This has made me feel better. I am a real softy in case you haven't noticed. I don't like to get anyone in trouble. My attorney said he did it to himself, because he was the one that brought action against me to suspend payments. He said when we had the hearing that the judge would review the file and see that he was not complying and that he would have found him in contempt of the order any way. He said this might knock some sense into him before we go to court.
My ex has three brothers and a sister and his parents who I know will hassle me unrelentously if he gets put in jail. Then when the kids are older, they will probably tell them I had their father put in jail. That's what is really bothering me. I don't want to end up being the bad guy in all this.
And yes, it has really been hard trying to care for a family by myself. I have a very dear friend to help me care for the kids when I go to the office and luckily I can do a lot of work from home on the computer.
Awhile back my ex told me that he just wanted to start fresh and have a new life and new family. I asked him what about us!! He really did say that to me.
frugalfarmwife 09-06-2006, 04:28 PM You know what hun, they're NOT your family anymore, he's depriving your children, HIS CHILDREN of a father, financial support, stability and MUCH MORE! You're not sending him to jail, he's breaking the LAW and sending himself to jail if he goes! It's no fair, he does NOT get a "do-over", he made this bed and he should lie in it! You're the one being an adult and providing stability for the children.
And I'll tell you what that "start a new life and new family" comment would have gotten his teeth knocked down his throat here!
BTW, if I remember right he cheated right? Just remember, if they cheat with you they'll cheat on you, he'll do the same thing to her! I hope she's got him on a short leash and MISERABLE, he deserves it!
Yep, pretty opinionated but I can't STAND when someone walks out on their family/kids!
No, I don't have children but I did have a major idiot for a first husband and I also had a dad that just didn't want a family anymore so I have no tolerance at all for this kind of behaviour!
I'm so glad you have a good friend for support, is your family also nearby? You need all the support you can get right now.
kj
starsapphire 09-06-2006, 04:52 PM My ex has three brothers and a sister and his parents who I know will hassle me unrelentously if he gets put in jail. Then when the kids are older, they will probably tell them I had their father put in jail. That's what is really bothering me. I don't want to end up being the bad guy in all this.
YOU know what the truth is. And you will tell your children the truth in your own way at an appropriate time. It DOES NOT MATTER what others think. When I left my first husband 11 years ago, he was so mad he was talking trash to everyone who would listen, telling all kinds of lies to get back at me. What I did was hold my head up high, and tell people that there are two sides to every story. And left it at that. I did not go around explaining myself. Actions speak louder than words, and my family and TRUE friends knew the truth without me having to say anything. It was not easy.
Stick to your guns, walk through this with grace, dignity and don't worry what the others are thinking or saying, knowing that you are doing the right thing. You can do this :hugz:
autumnlynn 09-07-2006, 08:29 AM Thanks, I am feeling a little better about this. It really is his own fault.
Yes, KJ, he did cheat on me. I didn't know it until after he left. Our divorce was final in March and he remarried in April. That was such a slap in the face, but I got over it pretty quick. I just don't understand how anyone could walk out on their family and leave them to fend for themselves. I could never stand to be separated from my children.
No, I have no family out here, but I do have friends. They've all been escatic that we're divorced. They could see through to the person he really is. I was blinded for a long time.
You know, and I am sure Karen can relate to this, I just want to get on with my life and have him leave me alone. I NEVER call him or get in contact with him, but he's always bugging me. It's always something with him. He's always got a sad story of how hard things are for him to tell to anyone who will listen. I don't want this stuff in my life. I'm happy now and I have plans and goals and I just want left alone.
Daisygirl 09-07-2006, 08:44 AM Yes, Autumn, I can totally relate. 99% of the drama in my life comes from my ex. You know, if he cheated on you he will cheat on her. My ex seems to think our kids are idiots - he and his live-in were celebrating being together for 4 years the other day - ummmmm, we have only been apart for THREE. The tragic thing is, he is cheating on her - we live in a very small town and I have seen him myslef out with other women, as well as having friends tell me about seeing him out with other women. I am sure that your ex is the same type of man (and I use that term loosely.)
As for me, I have finally drawn my line in the sand. I have always been the type to argue a point for a minute or two and then just say, "OK, fine, whatever, I don't want to fight about it." Well, they learn that if they push and push you will just give in. It is time for you to fight back, and as ugly as it may be, you must do it. It is horribly stressful, but I have to think that if we hold firm this time, maybe it will be the last time they bug us. Sound good to you?
If you are strong enough to have made it on your own with your kids all this time, you are strong enough to stand up to him, his family and his man-stealing wife! YOU have the moral fortitude to do whats right, and use that as your strength - those people are all talk and all about inducing guilt. YOU GO GIRL!!!!
kabin63 09-07-2006, 08:52 AM You know Autumn? It almost sounds like he is looking for your approval and he know's how sympathetic you are, so he plays on your guilt. I agree with the others, don't let up on him, he made his bed, he can lie in it too. And he will cheat on her too. His lack of character doesn't have to reflect on the kids. In time they will come to see what Dad did was wrong and be able to form their own opinions about it. My Dad cheated, but didn't go so far as to leave his family, but I still questioned him about it when I was grown and married. He didn't really know how to respond for his indiscretions. BTW, my mom ended up tossing him out on his ear. Later she remarried a man that treats her like gold.
Hold your head high, you don't answer to his family for anything. Who cares what they think? Actions DO SPEAK louder than words and if they enable him to be an idiot and not hold him accountable for his own actions then the fault lies with them. BTW, this is one of my soap box type issues , because I know what my Dad put my mom through.
Best Wishes and keep us posted. We're here to support you through this.
frugalfarmwife 09-07-2006, 09:09 AM My neighbor went through the same thing with her X, ends up he'd cheated a LOT through the years, finally left her for the last one he cheated with. Funny thing, when they went to finalize the divorce it was learned that he'd had a checking account with the new woman for 3 months before he left his wife, the judge RAKED him over the coals, lol, spousal support, child support and gave her EVERYTHING!
My neighbor was sympathetic for the longest time but I've given her MANY pep talks, lol, she now has NO sympathy for him and is taking care of herself and her kids.
The X? He looks like CRAP and is MISERABLE, LOL. He's living with the new woman AND her mom, they've got such a tight leash on him he can't even look at another woman. He's so cash strapped he can't afford to fix his vehicle, he's drinking all the time and just plain nasty. He can't afford to move out or move on with his life and he did it to HIMSELF!
Turn to your friends, turn to us here, we KNOW you're the adult in all this and the GOOD PARENT!
BTW, we also spend a lot of time with the oldest son, he LOVES working with my husband and learning, the second son is going to be a pill, he's a LOT like his dad.
Hugs friend,
kj
Lady_V 09-08-2006, 12:21 PM Autumn, all I can say is "Karma" .. what goes around comes around. He cheated on you, he married the woman he cheated with and I can damn well bet that she knew he was married... so, what's that say about HER character? Who knows.. maybe the cheater will become the cheatee in that relationship (could also explain why he is so insecure and miserable that he has to go running back to you about everything--)
As far as the child support... what part of Court Ordered did he NOT understand? If you are court ordered to pay a speeding ticket you know you have to pay it...you don't, you go to jail. Law is law... he didn't wake up one day and find out he had children and have to help support them. During my 'Big D' my ex said that if he quits his job, he won't have to pay support (only child to VERY wealthy parents). He was an idiot.. and he was also floored to hear the judge say "You do that and you are going to jail for contempt" KARMA BABY!!! It was OUR judge walking down the hallway who happened to overhear him. When we walked in to the courtroom to present the final agreements, the judge made sure to lean forward and pronounce clearly that if he is for whatever reason to become unemployed he is to report to the probation department immediately for contingency arrangements (IE: go on 5 job interviews a week and have the person who interviewed him sign the paperwork and explain why he wasn't hired...) all the more reason to NOT quit!!!!
As far as the kids are concerned regarding the "You put daddy in jail"... YOU didn't.. his actions did. He knew the law and chose to break it, therefor accepting the responsibilities and punishment for his actions (or non-actions). Technically, you didn't put him in jail, the county sheriff did. He rose awareness as to his contempt by filing the paperwork to try to get out of paying further support.
I think Karen was the one who said there are always two sides to divorce/story... sorry Karen but I disagree, I think there is his side, her side and the truth. Don't feel as if you have to defend yourself when it comes to your image with your children. They are your kids, they may not understand now, but there will come a time they will. They will get older, more educated and will realize the truth of the story.
I could sit and go on and on (combination of being a long-winded Italian and far too long of a sabbatical from law school :lol:)
He calls to whine, tell him to call his mom... he calls to say he is miserable, tell him to talk to his wife. He is not your responsibility, he is married and a grown individual. If he is a teacher, I would assume he is educated. Tell him the phone calls are to be about the children only. If he wants to talk about anything other than your children's health, education, well-being... tell him you are busy having a life and smile as you hang up!
PAVallygrl 10-13-2006, 06:15 PM My ex has three brothers and a sister and his parents who I know will hassle me unrelentously if he gets put in jail. Then when the kids are older, they will probably tell them I had their father put in jail. That's what is really bothering me. I don't want to end up being the bad guy in all this.
You know what? TOO BAD! Unless of course they want to Pay for THEIR brother/son's responsiblities!! Otherwise, THEY GET NO VOTE! If they were worth anything themselves as human beings, THEY should have been Kickin his A$$ to DO THE RIGHT THING all this time! As far as them telling your children bad things, then at that point ALL CONTACT to them would be cut immediately! And by the time the kids get older believe me, they will know the truth themselves. ACTIONS speak louder than words.
autumnlynn 10-13-2006, 07:08 PM Thanks for the encouragement, Kate. We have a court date set for next month. I hope KJ is back by then because her stink eye really works!!
I agree. You can't control what other people say or do, just do what is right by your kids even if other people will talk trash. My kids have heard it from their dad and step-mom and from the soon to be ex but they know what I have done to keep them clothed, fed and to provide a stable life. I can only be responsible for my words and my actions and taking the high road by doing the right thing pays off in the long run. That money is owed to you and your kids and you should do what needs to be done to get it.
Hollyhandi 10-16-2006, 02:44 PM When my sons dad left. I knew he was at his moms so i called my lawyer and told him that my son's dad had left us and i wanted child support.
This was the day after he left (my son was 2 months old ). My lawyer said do you know where he works and where he lives. I said your town up the street at the nursing home. Monday morning he got a letter from my lawyer telling him to contact him within 48 hous. He did and was told that we would be seeking child support unless they could come to terms and if he got one call from me that I did not receive it we'd be in court asking for more. He was also told we would be saying he did not stand up to the signed agreement and would put a warrant out for his arrest.
That was 17 years ago and last night his newest girlfriend called and asked if it would be better if the paid everything at the first of the month instead of every week. I told her fine with me as long as we get it.
Hang in there and get tough thats all they understand.. Its your kids life and you owe no one else any explanation .
autumnlynn 10-16-2006, 08:27 PM Thanks, I really appreciate the support. I just don't understand why he feels justified in not helping. He said he just wants to start a new life over without all the baggage of the past! I guess me and the kids are "baggage".
Daisygirl 10-17-2006, 04:44 PM Lovely, isn't it, that your former life becomes baggage when you get a new girlfriend? My ex is the same way. Somehow they always manage to blame all their ills on the "psycho ex wife." You keep your chin up, Autumn, and stay strong. You know you have right on your side. We are all here for ya.
autumnlynn 10-17-2006, 06:27 PM Thanks, Karen. I don't care about being baggage, but I don't like him thinking of our kids that way. Oh well, what can I do!! I'm getting so I think I hate him, and I've never hated anyone in my life. I hope that feeling passes as I don't want to become a bad, bitter person. I've always been a happy, upbeat person with a love of life, and I don't want that to change.
Daisygirl 10-17-2006, 08:08 PM Autumn, I think that you can dislike someone intensely when they have done something to harm your children without considering yourself bad or bitter. It is no secret that I detest my ex-husband, but in general I am a happy, cheerful person.
I am sorry that you have to go through this, but even sorrier that you have to see your children hurt. Nothing can break a mother's heart like seeing her kids unhappy.
So, girlfriend, you carry on and burn the big jerk in effigy if you need to. Just make sure you laugh while you dance around the bonfire! (*wink*)
cmitch1961 10-17-2006, 09:21 PM I have been happily diviorced 6 yrs last week. My daughter is now 12, and her dad is remarried and has her visit when it's convient for them. She loves her dad as she should but she is now realizing that $52 a week isn't really alot for child support.We have a appointment next month for braces and I know that it will be a battle for him to pay his half. My daughter said that maybe he can sell his motorcylcle to pay for his half.
Goodwin17 10-18-2006, 01:07 AM I'm hoping that things go well for you Autumn! Hang in there. Sending you hugs!!
autumnlynn 10-18-2006, 03:41 AM Yeah, I'm really nervous about court next month, but I want it to be over with. I know what you mean about getting your ex to pay half on the braces. My ex was supposed to be half of a large phone bill he left but did not pay, half of the vet bills we had, etc. I paid them on my own. He didn't pay squat on any of them. Your child support is very low. I haven't seen any support since last June.
Thanks Karen and Heather for your support. It really means a lot to me.
kittyrose 11-02-2006, 10:38 AM autumnlynn... i am a real softy except when it comes to my kids... then i am like mama bear running out of the woods ready to bite someone's head off...
if his family harasses you, take the phone off the hook, call the police, make sure its known... yes, they will talk about you but your kids will grow up and believe me, they will know you did the right thing...
i told my son (he's 16) that if he ever put his children what my ex did to me and his older sister, its not the courts that will deal with him, its his mama!...
too bad so many men (and women) dont take care of their responsibilities...
and its the kids who suffer...
(((hugs))) to you and your children... it will get better... the courts have a great way of keepping track of someone who doesnt pay...
also, remember, if he isnt paying and he is in their computer system and the law finds him, he automatically goes to jail... then they go to court and have to deal with all of that... that is what happened to my ex... i just kept in contact with the local office that handles the child support and whenever i heard he moved or changed jobs, i informed them... the state tracked him down, picked him up and then the next day he was in front of a judge... i didnt have to go to court, either (i could have if i wanted to, but at the time my dh was recovering from a stroke and i didnt want to leave him)...
hope this info helps...
kittyrose 11-02-2006, 10:51 AM what is this stink-eye?... and how do you do it????
i would like to know...
hang in there karen and autumnlynn... it does get better...
trust me, i have been there...
(((hugs))) to both of you... :D
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