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quiltergirl2 03-08-2008, 10:47 AM DH has been placed in a quit or be fired situation at work. Top management has changed and they have been firing and putting pressure on long term employees to quit for some time. DH is the last one on his team left. I'm just sorry that they have decided to make this personal -- he is a good worker and deserves so much better than this. But it is just one of those times where life is just plain unfair and there is nothing you can do about it but move on.
This is not a desperation situation for us. We are fine. He still has 5 weeks of pay coming including vacation time. We have enough money in savings for 3 months living expenses. He was already looking for a job and has three strong prospects - he already had an interview scheduled for Monday that is the second step in a three step hiring process -- so hopefully he won't be out of work long.
He is pretty upset so I have to be strong here. So I am taking a little time away from the frugal village. I will be spending a little time at a positive thinking forum, as well as continuing with my art and my writing. My major job will be keeping dh on his feet. I might be back when dh goes back to work. I wish you all the best.
mombottoo 03-08-2008, 10:52 AM :hug2: for you and your hubby!!!
IntlMom 03-08-2008, 10:53 AM Yet ANOTHER FVer affected by a job loss!! We'll add you to the list!!! I'm glad your situation is not scary.....still, it will be a huge relief when he finds something else, which he WILL do, like all the rest of us that have been thru this. (my dh lost his job this last summer)
(((hugs)))
jamie79 03-08-2008, 10:56 AM sending good thoughts to both of you
my4littlebuffaloes 03-08-2008, 11:20 AM I hope you get through this quickly. It sounds like you have a very good plan in place. Good luck!
quiltergirl, sorry you are in this situation. I do hope you'll pop back in from time to time. I enjoy your posts.
On another note... he didn't quit, did he? He should let them fire him and then file UI. If they don't have just cause... they'll pay.
Jskell911 03-08-2008, 12:17 PM I am glad that it seems so doable to you. But I am sorry for the emotional toll it seems to be taking on your DH. I agree he should not quit. If he does there will be no unemployment benefits to be had.
Good luck!
C@rol 03-08-2008, 12:46 PM Wishing you and your husband all the best.
shoiji 03-08-2008, 01:04 PM What a @!%% situation. Great to hear your hubby is going strong with the job search. Sending you good thoughts. Take care.
quiltergirl2 03-10-2008, 11:37 AM Just stopped by for a minute to see it there were any responses on this. While I appreciate the concern expressed by some, we really are okay. This is a large international company with a team of attorneys on staff. Unemployement will not be an option. He is the last of his team to go -- it took so long with him because he really is a good employee. He won an award two weeks ago. It takes longer to find "cause" with a good employee. The best case senario here is to resign. A firing would do much more damage.
We've been preparing for this for some time. He has watched as one by one his team members have been escorted to the door. He has been conducting an active job search while he still had the option of being selective. He has been looking to make a step upward in both position and salary. His experience, skills and education make him in demand in a major industry in our city. One of his friends had another job the next week. He currently has three prospects in the advanced stages of the hiring process. He could be back to work in the next few weeks. It is certainly not to the point of grabbing anything to just have a job, but he is more that willing to do that if it does get there.
I am not falling apart now because I did that three months ago when after months of being threatened it appeared the end was indeed near. I'm just glad we've had as much time to prepare as we have. We are in much better shape for this now than when the team started being picked off. So I am not being unrealistic. I am not in denial. I am not cold and unfeeling about this. I've just had time to accept the inevitable and prepare to move on. Dh is already doing better than I've seem him in a long time -- just after one weekend. He knew it was coming, but when they chose to make it personal -- that really hurt. We will be okay -- really.
leezza 03-10-2008, 12:23 PM Good for you and your positive upbeat attitude.
I am still sorry that your hubby has to go thru it though, how very stressful.
I wonder why this company is going so far to get rid of people???? The folks here in our neck of the woods that are in the Technical community have been layed of with pink slips......
Take care of yourself
Good Luck to your hubby,
leezza
quiltergirl2 03-10-2008, 12:36 PM It's not that the jobs aren't still there. The team has been replaced with younger, "prettier" people. But age discrimination is very difficult to prove -- legally. That is part of why they are firing for "cause" to make it harder to sue. But it is starting to look more like a modeling agency than high finance over there.
But the one thing I've learned in my 50 years is life isn't always fair and sometimes there isn't a blessed thing you can do about it.
quiltergirl 06-03-2008, 08:46 PM He starts work Monday. Far from the idea job, but it will bring in money while he continues to look.
He took this before our savings ran out so we are fine.
Just thought I'd drop in and let the few people who might care know.
Frugal Nurse 06-03-2008, 08:52 PM HOLD ON RIGHT THERE!!!!!!!!!!
He is NOT being fired!
He is being 'let go'. which is another term for 'laid off'
PLEASE! don't let them intimidate him!
There is a HUGE difference with firing and let go.
He is fired if he didn't do his job. It's hard to prove that if he got an award 2 weeks ago.
DO NOT LET HIM QUIT OR RESIGN! Let them 'let him go'
He CAN file unemployment.
DON"T LET THEM DO THAT TO HIM!
grrrrrrrrr I'm so mad!!
I'm going to have to change my 'mood' status bar now!
NOTE: I wrote all that... and realized.. there was more to the thread! lol! so.. oh well. I'm STILL mad! lol!
PrairieRose 06-03-2008, 08:57 PM I hope that it all works out 'just like it's supposed to' for you both. I really feel that things happen for a reason and sometimes that reason is just to test us to see if we're tough enough for the better things that are coming our way. Hang in there. This too shall pass and I'm thrilled to hear that he's found another job. :hug2:
quiltergirl 06-04-2008, 12:19 PM He was not going to be "let go" or "laid off." He was going to be FIRED -- not because he was a bad worker but because he was a bad person (according to them). My husband is a very good man and they fact that they made this a personal attack on him is what really hurt.
There was going to be no unemployment either way. We live in the midwest -- being fired is still considered a VERY BAD thing here. We also live in a non-union state -- employers have all the power. Finding another job would have been even harder if he had been fired.
We are not in debt. We had substantial savings. This was a good time for him to look to get back into his professional field. But that has not happened, and employers were telling him he had been unemployed "too long." So he has taken the "get a job, any job" option. He will be working afternoons/evenings so he will be able to keep looking.
We are fine. Just ticked off at the state of the world right now. People are so rude and so eager to tell him he should retire, he's "too old" to work. He's only in his fifties for heaven's sake! And not everyone has the goal of retiring at 40. He wants to work.
This man has a very impressive resume -- in both the fields of business and social services. He is kind, gentle and extremely gifted, yet the world seems to be choosing to reject his gifts. With the mess the world is in right now, throwing away "the best and the brightest" doesn't make a bit of sense.
There -- I've had my rant, I'm going to go work on my book.
quiltergirl, I completely understand and have faced some of the same unfairness. I'm glad he's found some work. It seems the more impressive the resume, the harder it is to find work!
Thanks so much for checking in! I was just thinking about you.
luv-my-lexi 06-04-2008, 01:24 PM :hugz: Hope it will get better for him soon.
mom2matty 06-04-2008, 01:29 PM I'm sorry this is happening to him!! Good for you guys for being prepared though!!! Sending good thoughts that something great comes along for him soon!!!
heartofmine 06-04-2008, 01:32 PM Your family has my prayers.
staciah 06-04-2008, 01:34 PM Iam so sorry to hear about your DH. I wish you the best of luck. Hope to hear from you soon with great news of a new and better job.
larabelle 06-04-2008, 01:47 PM I hope that it all works out 'just like it's supposed to' for you both. I really feel that things happen for a reason and sometimes that reason is just to test us to see if we're tough enough for the better things that are coming our way. Hang in there. This too shall pass and I'm thrilled to hear that he's found another job. :hug2:
I echo these same feelings. :vibes:
Darlene 06-04-2008, 02:28 PM Change can be very good. I'm looking forward to hearing about all the positive things it brings.:)
Frugal Nurse 06-04-2008, 07:47 PM Quiltergirl.. sorry.. I thought I pointed out at the end of my post when I went back to edit... I had realized that I didn't read all of the posts and the rest of the story. I thought I was at the end.
that's why I added the note.
But I'm mad with you too! there!
I'm glad things worked out though.
quiltergirl 06-05-2008, 07:50 PM Thank you everyone for the concern, but we are fine. Last time I checked being ticked off wasn't a terminal condition. Last week dh had three two really bad experiences with HR people lying to him. We live by very strong moral and ethical standards and have about had our fill of people in power lying right now (but that's a whole nuther story.)
The people in HR at the new company have been very nice to him -- he has commented several times about how nice they are. Once he gets through training there is opportunity for bonuses and is there is a possible to get into the training or HR dept. He is still working, but this will be okay at least for now.
So as I've said we are fine.
This is my last planned update. There is an e-mail link on my website if anyone wants to contact me privately.
http://www.geocities.com/quiltnart
Blessings and best wishes to you all.
momof2joys 06-05-2008, 10:54 PM Good Luck, I hope everything goes well. I am sending you hugs and prayers. He'll be fine for the interview on Monday. You'll be in my thoughts and prayers.
quiltergirl 06-16-2008, 03:28 PM I hope that it all works out 'just like it's supposed to' for you both. I really feel that things happen for a reason and sometimes that reason is just to test us to see if we're tough enough for the better things that are coming our way. Hang in there. This too shall pass and I'm thrilled to hear that he's found another job. :hug2:
You know the idea that God sends bad things to His people as some sort of "test" just isn't something I can get my head around. Sorry, but that just isn't part of my belief system.
However, looking at this with more information we are very glad that he didn't get the "perfect job" he was told he was the most qualified candidate for. When it didn't come through we were confused, frustrated and yes, at least a bit angry. But now we are just relieved. It was in Cedar Rapids -- not a good place to have just moved to right now. We definitely feel that we have been "protected" during this time. We both have bunches of angels around us -- sometimes I just wish they would let us know what they're doing.
As I have said over and over we are fine. We've been fine during the job search and we're still fine now that he has started training. The cat's fine, my 80 yr. old folks in Kansas are fine. Everybody's just fine and dandy here and extremely glad to be safe and dry.
ladykemma2 06-16-2008, 03:40 PM ya know... i have been around the employment block, and seen karma happen in employment situations.
what these guys dish out, they will receive.
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