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07-18-2008, 09:37 PM #1
Need Some Opinions on Selling Everything
I am at a crossroads and am trying to decide what to do.
I am a real estate developer. I own about 70 acres of raw land worth about $1 million which has no debt. I also own about 20 residential lots worth about $600K. I have a bank debt of about $290K and personal debt (about half credit cards) of about $60K. I just sold my house and live in a rental. Our cars are paid off.
The real estate market has gone down the tubes and I am worried that the whole economy is about to collapse. Lots are not selling, therefore I have no income. I could make a career change and do something else.
I have an offer on my raw land for about $1 million and kind of want to sell it to get out of debt. My wife wants to keep the land because she really wants to build a house there some day. I'm worried that if we don't get out of debt soon it could get bad and we could get jammed up. Give me some opinions on this please.
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07-18-2008, 09:59 PM #2
An offer in hand is worth something in my opinion and so is being able to sleep at night without debt hanging over your head.
Unless the land is the "be all, end all" and exactly where you both want to live AND there is nothing else like it available, then I would sell it, pay off all your debt, continue to live in your rental and reevaluate where and what you want to do.
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07-18-2008, 10:19 PM #3
Sell the land, keep the lots, pay off the debt, and live on the remaining $650k for 11 years on $50k a year or until the economy turns around. Not cause the economy's collapsing, but because debt is hanging over your head.
And then stop listening to the FRIGGING MEDIA and start listening to Dave Ramsey.
FED upgraded GDP outlook on Wednesday to increased growth - from 0.3 to 1.2, to 1.2 to 1.8. That's an upswing.
So stop panicking and be debt free and a half millionaire with lots of real estate you can develop again in a year or two.If you could kick in the pants the person responsible for your problems, you wouldn't be able to sit for a month.
Did you know that a 4 year student paying $20,000/year who finances their education graduates with over $103,000 in debt to start? But a student who works and pays cash and takes 6 years to graduate ends with $6,300 in their pocket! So much for "getting a head start by financing!"
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07-18-2008, 10:49 PM #4
Greebo! You're so frggn funny!!
But I agree.
If you have an offer and indeed it is solid - SELL!!!!!!!!!!!!
There will be other lots. It's not the end of the earth.
Maybe you can find a smaller acreage and build the wife a house there. But where will you live?
All kidding aside. Sheesh.. I'm jealous about the amount of property owned. but I do not envy your debt.
Actually, I am not sure I could sleep at night. I'd be selling my million dollar property for 3/4 that amount just to pay the debt.
(but that's me - prolly a good thing I'm not in real estate INVESTMENTS huh..? )
Last edited by Frugal Nurse; 07-18-2008 at 10:51 PM. Reason: I spelled ONE measley word wrong! this is like a truth serum -- reason for editing... 'FN screwed up' okay! no points off
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07-18-2008, 11:19 PM #5
Sell it and let tomorrow take care of itself! You need to get debtfree now and in the present.
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07-18-2008, 11:33 PM #6Registered User
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I agree with the above posters. Sell it and get rid of that debt.
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07-19-2008, 03:53 PM #7
I'd sell in a heartbeat! Get rid of the debt and stash your cash!! There will be other land......
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07-19-2008, 04:44 PM #8Registered User
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I'd sell the land and keep at least one of the lots for your own future home. I'd pay off the debt, live debt free and conservatively and sleep like a baby at night.
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07-20-2008, 12:44 PM #9
Sell, Sell, Sell -- with the RE market being what it is you have received an excellent offer!
Do NOT spend the money you make on the deal other than to pay off debt.
Meet with your CPA to minimize any capital gains tax.
The peace of mind you and your dw have will MORE than make up for the fact that you do not have that exact tract of land to build your dream/retirement home.
All the bestJen

30 yr old DD
3 kitties

(2 adopted from my daughter)
As of January 1, 2011------------------------ Updated June 10, 2011
Short term goals:
- $2,000: to set up my consulting business. DONE!
INVESTED ANOTHER $5000!
- $4,000: down payment gift to daughter to bring her down payment on a house to 20% and avoid PMI. ON HOLD.... her offer wasn't accepted...
- $1,500: pay off Student loan ALMOST THERE!
- $1,200: pay off credit card (was disputing with creditor (ALL PREDATORY FEES charged on ZERO BALANCE), but I'm giving up the fight to make this go away...) PUT OFF till June/July
- $11,600: Pay off Cornerstone car loan by end of May 2011 DONE
- Complete tax returns by February 15th DONE
Long term goals:
Continue to follow a modified Dave Ramsey plan to pay off debt. Progress has been made, but there is much to do...
Balances January 1, 2011 -----------------June 10, 2011
Citimortgage on home: $104,500-------- $102,775
BofA Mtg on Rental: $27,000------------ $26,000(Est)
HSBC Equity Line on Rental: $11,900------ $9,902
Citibank car loan: $13,830 -------------- $11,663
Cornerstone car loan: $11,600------- PAID OFF!!
Student Loan: $1,500------------------ $320
Credit card: $1,200-------------------- $1,200
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