Does anyone else get annoyed with Dave Ramsey?

**newstudent** · 12-17-2011, 09:49 AM

I have followed the conversation with great interest.

Isn't it almost comparable to religion?
The message is good but the ones who deliver it have their flaws and problems but it does not make the message any less in worth.

**Ptgirl** · 03-26-2012, 12:17 PM

I heard that part that was a slam to the renter. I just figured it was an off the cuff remark & that thing DR says
about a free call is what its worth-but you are right not very nice.

I do like the show because people of all sorts of people call, from the ones who cant balance their checkbook to the widow,
worth a million, wanting to know if it's ok to spend a little.

I did by the TMMO book, but since wont spend a dime on his stuff
since I figured the plan is still the same. Besides I think I am the
frugulist (sp.?) person I know right now !

I listen to DR @ work,, funny but I turn down the debt free screams, cuz I figure at work people just wont get it !
They dont even pack their lunch to save $$$. Oh well !

I have never heard of Howard Clark, will have to check it out.

**nkochrn** · 03-26-2012, 02:40 PM

I've thought he seemed a little harsh lately too! I think he seems a little arrogant.

ptgirl-I turn down the debt free screams at work too, even though I'm listening with headphones. lol

I'm gonna check out Howard Clark too!

**nodmicks** · 03-26-2012, 03:09 PM

I heard a rant by him a while back that actually had me shut his show off for good. He had had several callers with huge student loans and not good jobs. HE went on forever!!! I was ok with the rant on the pricey education you could do nothing with until he blamed the parents. I'm sorry but as a parent of and 18 year old they are legal adults with minds of their own! I am not responsible for my 18 year olds choices and neither are other parents. YOU can advise them but 18 year olds are many times very stubborn and think their parents are dumber than rocks! You cant force your 18 year old to do anything.

**Happyfamily2000** · 03-26-2012, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by nodmicks

I heard a rant by him a while back that actually had me shut his show off for good. He had had several callers with huge student loans and not good jobs. HE went on forever!!! I was ok with the rant on the pricey education you could do nothing with until he blamed the parents. I'm sorry but as a parent of and 18 year old they are legal adults with minds of their own! I am not responsible for my 18 year olds choices and neither are other parents. YOU can advise them but 18 year olds are many times very stubborn and think their parents are dumber than rocks! You cant force your 18 year old to do anything.

I did not listen to the show.

But most often the parents are the ones that advise the student to take on ridiculous loans.

And mom and dad are typically needed on that FAFSA.

It has been years since I went to college, so my memory is foggy. But I do know that I was required to have my mom's tax returns every year. While it wasn't necessary to have her consent, that was implied consent when she did surrender the documents I needed to acquire the loans.

The kid may be a legal adult, but they pretty much aren't getting much of any kind of cash via scholarship or loan through the schools and federal government without mommy and daddy.

So while you cannot force them to not do something, in Dave's mind, you are well within your power to not be complicit with that something.

On a different note, I have been enjoying Clark Howard and Suze Orman. I do miss Dave's show, but appreciate his FPU videos a bit better. He isn't angry in them, which is nice. The only thing I dislike about Clark Howard isn't him, but my cable company. They still the last 5 minutes of each half hour to broadcast a local show that showcases local "stuff". I wish they would pick a different show to interrupt.

My husband does not like Suze because sometimes she comes across as educating people on how to abdicate their responsibilities. In particular, her advice for folks on short sales/foreclosures as current tax incentives that do not tax on the "gains" from these transactions are concluding soon. It bugs him to no end.

**Charro** · 06-22-2012, 04:44 PM

It all boils down to two things. Lack of charm and people skills. And how commercial are they. If they want to make a profit fine, but totally gigging people is not really helping them. I saw Ramsey on television not too long ago. He looks like he is in pain. The phrase that came to mind was constipated Jackal. Maybe he is feeling the crunch like everyone else and he is not "quite as rich?" People don't need either of these people to save and invest. Maybe they are realizing it and it hurts.

**Palooka** · 06-30-2012, 02:37 AM

I find it ironic that he took a two week trip with his family to Europe, 'searching his roots in Scotland', and slamming Socialism at which his family was founded on..and has to 'endure' at the same time.

Also last month when he called all Europe stupid in his own words. Please, he needs to take a vacation in Germany.

Why?? Your only excuse is Greece is in the tanker?? Please.

Don't get me wrong..I bought the app on my iPhone, just not gonna drink all the Kool-aide like some do.

Thanks, Mr.President, again. *wears the American flag on my night shirt.*

**Rosebudget1** · 06-30-2012, 07:22 AM

I talk to my husband about how he talks all the time.
His calling people stupid and dumb drives me nuts.
It really is too bad because his message is a good one about being debt free.
I could do with out his political rants too!
I listen and work his program but do not drink all the Kool-aide either.

**Nadders11** · 06-30-2012, 05:56 PM

Somethings he says annoys me sometimes. Like his bashing of socialism. Being Canadian, I take it he doesn't think we are smart with the way we handle some things up here. Kinda pisses me off...our universial healthcare is one thing I am grateful for and would probably move to Europe if I had to pay

But in general I like he has enough balls on HiIS radio show to express his opinions. Agree or not, I respect his confidence in himself. That's why I listen, I actually believe he knows his stuff about finances. He's the kinda guy that will tell you exactly what he thinks of you without trying to be politically correct. I think everyone needs that sometimes.

**snowmonroe** · 06-30-2012, 10:59 PM

I note on his use of the word stupid. My boyfriend and I are both debt free but one of the most important steps was taking ownership of the stupid things we had done. Knowing it was by our own doing we were in trouble allowed us to have the power and control to fix it. No one else would tell us we were stupid, everyone else told us we were trying our hardest and doing the best we can and it wasn't our fault. They just enabled us to maintain our victim mentality like many people in debt. True some financial struggles are outside of someone's control, but those aren't the people he's calling stupid. I like his upfront attitude. I clearly drink the kool-aid, he's changed my life in so many ways.

**UK Chic** · 07-16-2012, 01:23 PM

Last week, I turned him off. First time ever.

He was on one of his rants (which normally do not bother me or I just turn the radio station) but this one was BAD! He even ended with telling people not to listen if they don't want to and he is sure it wouldn't affect his ratings.
Then added they could 'kiss his butt' if they didn't like it.
What????? When did this become the way a person talks when he wants to "help" people??

I have noticed his attitude getting worse with the comments on Twitter (which he stated that he likes to 'rile' people up) but this is too much.

He tells people to only use his ELP (Endorsed Local Providers) if they have a heart of a teacher yet, he seems to have lost his.

**my4littlebuffaloes** · 07-16-2012, 01:29 PM

UK Chic - you are right, he has lost his "heart of a teacher" for sure! He really gets upset about twitter, which he claims doesn't bother him and that he likes getting into with people on twitter. But clearly it bothers him because he gets so upset! I wish he would leave his twitter arguments on twitter and not bring them to the radio.

**UK Chic** · 07-16-2012, 04:44 PM

@My4littlebuffaloes, I agree 110%! I wouldn't be on his Twitter feed for any amount of money!!

**katwillny** · 07-16-2012, 10:34 PM

Its almost tough love, at least in his eyes. He does seem to be a bit more feisty than usual lately. Sometimes people call with real everyday problem and he fusses at them a bit to harsh at times. To the original post, I guess too much of a good thing can be bad, if you listen to anything, even Joel Steen, youd probably find him annoying too. Take a break and listen to something else. just a thought.

**Sophiasmama** · 07-17-2012, 07:34 AM

i took a listen in a few days ago...might have been old shows...but compared to last year he does seem less understanding...maybe he needs to move on.