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    Question What is a good % of income to spend on....?

    I'm trying to figure out % of net income is considered good/reasonable to spend on categories.

    It seems that some of our areas are high but I'm not sure if I'm being unrealistic or not.

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    I have no idea, but I will interested to see what others have to say.
    Working on Our Debt a Day at a Time:

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    Bank of America: Paid $1054 of $1600
    Dillard's: Paid $953 of $1750
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    Amex #1: Paid $3975.50 of $3975.50 Paid in Full 3/09

    Chase #2: Paid $4489.75 of $4489.75 Paid in Full 12/09
    Macy's: Paid $337.24 of $337.24 Paid in Full 9/10
    Lane Bryant: $300 of $300 Paid in Full 7/10
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    Amex #2: Paid $8286.17 of $8286.17 Paid in Full 7/11
    Foot Surgery: Paid $1759 of $1759 Paid in Full 8/11
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    Dave Ramsey suggests:
    ITEM Percentage
    GIVING 10-15
    SAVING 5-10
    HOUSING 25-35
    UTILITIES 5-10
    FOOD 5-15
    TRANSPORTATION 10-15
    CLOTHING 2-7
    MEDICAL HEALTH 5-10
    PERSONAL 5-10
    RECREATION 5-10
    DEBTS 5-10
    If you could kick in the pants the person responsible for your problems, you wouldn't be able to sit for a month.

    Did you know that a 4 year student paying $20,000/year who finances their education graduates with over $103,000 in debt to start? But a student who works and pays cash and takes 6 years to graduate ends with $6,300 in their pocket! So much for "getting a head start by financing!"


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    Mahalo G - that is a percentage spread that makes a wonderful goal!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greebo View Post
    Dave Ramsey suggests:
    ITEM Percentage
    GIVING 10-15
    SAVING 5-10
    HOUSING 25-35
    UTILITIES 5-10
    FOOD 5-15
    TRANSPORTATION 10-15
    CLOTHING 2-7
    MEDICAL HEALTH 5-10
    PERSONAL 5-10
    RECREATION 5-10
    DEBTS 5-10
    So what would be in personal?

    And are those percents of net or gross?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    So what would be in personal?

    And are those percents of net or gross?
    http://www.daveramsey.com/tools/budget-forms/

    PERSONAL
    Life Insurance
    Child Care
    *Baby Sitter
    *Toiletries
    *Cosmetics
    *Hair Care
    Education/Adult
    School Tuition
    School Supplies
    Child Support
    Alimony
    Subscriptions
    Organization Dues
    Gifts (incl. Christmas)
    Miscellaneous
    *Blow Money


    And net I think - since we have no say on taxes.
    If you could kick in the pants the person responsible for your problems, you wouldn't be able to sit for a month.

    Did you know that a 4 year student paying $20,000/year who finances their education graduates with over $103,000 in debt to start? But a student who works and pays cash and takes 6 years to graduate ends with $6,300 in their pocket! So much for "getting a head start by financing!"


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    Thanks that helps a lot

    If I come up with more questions I'll ask.

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    That savings percentage is way too low, unless you are deep in debt - in which case the recreation percentage is too high. 10% absolute minimum for savings, or else be prepared to work until you're ninety.

    Your age is also a factor - the percentages should change as you get older. People in their prime earning years should be paying debts and saving much more agressively. Mortgages should be retired long before you are.

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    Dave's suggestions in the housing and food work good for me. Including education in personal doesn't seem to work for me. Personal including gifts, organizational dues, and personal care items sounds reasonable.

    Medical, personal, recreational and debt all being 5 to 10% seems a little odd to me. If I only put that much toward debt, we'd be in big trouble. And if put that much toward recreation and only the same amount to debt, it just wouldn't make sense to me.

    Just my opinions. I guess that's why they are just guidelines. We each have to tweak it to our personal situtions.
    Working on Our Debt a Day at a Time:

    Chase #1: Paid $1307.12 of $1925.04
    Bank of America: Paid $1054 of $1600
    Dillard's: Paid $953 of $1750
    Medical (too much to list so I am going one at a time):
    Amex #1: Paid $3975.50 of $3975.50 Paid in Full 3/09

    Chase #2: Paid $4489.75 of $4489.75 Paid in Full 12/09
    Macy's: Paid $337.24 of $337.24 Paid in Full 9/10
    Lane Bryant: $300 of $300 Paid in Full 7/10
    MRI Paid $1080 of $1080 Paid in Full 2/11
    Amex #2: Paid $8286.17 of $8286.17 Paid in Full 7/11
    Foot Surgery: Paid $1759 of $1759 Paid in Full 8/11
    Furniture: Paid $2000 of $2000 Paid in Full 3/12


    2012 Fling 319/2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greebo View Post
    Dave Ramsey suggests:
    ITEM Percentage
    GIVING 10-15
    SAVING 5-10
    HOUSING 25-35
    UTILITIES 5-10
    FOOD 5-15
    TRANSPORTATION 10-15
    CLOTHING 2-7
    MEDICAL HEALTH 5-10
    PERSONAL 5-10
    RECREATION 5-10
    DEBTS 5-10
    You would have to adjust the amount spent depending upon your family's needs. If you add the percentages on the high end together they equal way more than 100%.

    IMHO 5-10% is way too low for savings...when my dh was working we contributed 16% to 401(k) and that percentage didn't include regular savings, just the retirement portion. He had an additional $25.00 per week taken out automatically & put into our credit union savings account and of course I had my own savings account at that time too.
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    It's interesting that this topic should come up now. I am tracking expenses right now because I wanted to see how my percentages work out. DR's breakdown will be quite different from my actual, since I have no debt to repay and I'm working aggressively on saving. I want to do this over the year since discretionary expenses vary so much month to month.

    Does anyone know is DR's are fairly normal, or do others make other recommendations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mombottoo View Post
    You would have to adjust the amount spent depending upon your family's needs. If you add the percentages on the high end together they equal way more than 100%.
    If you added up the low end they're way less. They're ranges so one can be higher and another can be lower.

    IMHO 5-10% is way too low for savings...when my dh was working we contributed 16% to 401(k) and that percentage didn't include regular savings, just the retirement portion. He had an additional $25.00 per week taken out automatically & put into our credit union savings account and of course I had my own savings account at that time too.
    Well on the DR plan your FFEF is done before you do any retirement, and then your retirement is 15% - hmm his ranges are a little off for that one I agree.
    If you could kick in the pants the person responsible for your problems, you wouldn't be able to sit for a month.

    Did you know that a 4 year student paying $20,000/year who finances their education graduates with over $103,000 in debt to start? But a student who works and pays cash and takes 6 years to graduate ends with $6,300 in their pocket! So much for "getting a head start by financing!"


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    So the totals are in for this month and they aren't in line with the recommendations

    Food 25%

    Medical was higher too Son's medicine alone is 2% of our net income each month. medical insurance cost is taken out before so is not included in our net.

    There were some categorizes that were less too, like housing, personal, and recreation.

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    Food is highly dependent upon income. If you only make $20k a year and need 400/mo to feed a family of 8, 25% isn't out of whack. On the other hand, if you make $100,000 a year and you are spending 25% on food then you probably either eat out way too much, or you're the size of the good year blimp.
    If you could kick in the pants the person responsible for your problems, you wouldn't be able to sit for a month.

    Did you know that a 4 year student paying $20,000/year who finances their education graduates with over $103,000 in debt to start? But a student who works and pays cash and takes 6 years to graduate ends with $6,300 in their pocket! So much for "getting a head start by financing!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Greebo View Post
    Food is highly dependent upon income. If you only make $20k a year and need 400/mo to feed a family of 8, 25% isn't out of whack. On the other hand, if you make $100,000 a year and you are spending 25% on food then you probably either eat out way too much, or you're the size of the good year blimp.
    very good point

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