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03-11-2008, 03:27 AM #1
The Year of Living Frugally - Week 5
Savings Goal for the Year
This morning when I woke up - I was out of beans (of the coffee variety). For those of us addicted to this country’s version of corporate-endorsed legal speed - that presents a problem. Before I had a chance to really wake up, I put on my house-slippers, threw my backpack over my shoulder and started walking to the local grocery store.
As I was walking, I momentarily had the feeling as if I were in Mexico heading to the mercado. The sun was shining, there was a light offshore breeze that smelled of dry inland air (versus the usual damp briny smelling air), and I felt particularly buoyant.
Why the change? Was it a lack of stuff surrounding me in my new home? The absence of a television (no longer hypnotized by the great unblinking eye…)? Maybe it was the presence of a long-term plan in my life now?
The closest I could figure was that since I had made changes - and created a plan, I was much more aware of the present - and had been spending much more time there.
This is a feeling I usually do not experience when walking to the grocery store (at least not in the last few years) - unless I’m on vacation. Vacations are all about practicing “presentness”.
This may seem counter-intuitive - the long-term plan leading to more awareness of the present.
On the surface, not having a plan seems to be the best answer for experiencing more “presentness”. Go with the flow, ride the waves that life sends your way, and remain aware of your surroundings.
This makes sense only when one has no responsibilities.
While the last two years of my life have been productive, they weren’t necessarily directed towards any long-term goals.
Moving back to California from Minnesota, attempting to pay off the debt, reconnecting with surfing and deciding if far-northern coastal California is the place I want to put down roots - these all led to a state of surviving. These were all worthy endeavors, but I was approaching them like a pinball - reacting to whatever obstacle was the largest at the time. I was just trying to survive.
Surviving can be a trap. It made me complacent, in some ways. Does “just surviving” lead to low expectations? Reacting instead of acting? I survived the work day - what is on TV tonight?
What does it take to thrive?
Part of thriving (for me) has been having a plan.
Freed from my television, freed from so much of my stuff - my distractions - my focus began shifting towards the overall plan. One of the end-goal possibilities of The Year of Living Frugally is the Year of Living Hispanically - the extended travel/surf-trip/resume builder.
I hear people make plans like these quite often. Most people end up not going, or turning back sooner than expected - because they did not realize how much money it takes (while some people do have the innate ability to just go - and let the chips fall as they may).
Is it financially feasible for someone in my situation?
Estimating the Cost of One Year of Latin-American Travel
Continuing on from the original concept of this idea, leaving a year from now and driving from California through Mexico, Central America, the length of South America and back - I would spend the trip becoming fluent in Spanish, learning about other cultures, maybe catch the odd wave or two - and generally see what the western hemisphere has to offer.
It would probably be a good idea to figure out how much money is necessary before arriving in Tierra del Fuego.
First, there are monthly expenses for maintaining the status quo in the states. I would like to have the option to return - for now. So I would need to set up an automated pay system to cover student loans, storage fees, etc.
Maintaining Status Quo in States
Student Loans: $231/month for 18 months (1 year of travel and a 6-month payment cushion) $4158
Storage Unit: $34/month for 18 months: $612
Billpay Service: 18 months for $125.10
Surfline : 12 months for $59.95
Skype: 12 months for $60
Web-Hosting: 12 months for $83.40
Maintain Status Quo in States Subtotal: $4770
The 18-month payment period is to give myself a 6-month cushion in case of emergency or … any sort of emergency (financial, medical, surf…). Besides, I want to make sure my debt is well-taken care of in case of a problem. I wouldn’t want anything bad to happen to my debt…
Medical
Immunizations ($300)
Typhoid (need booster?)
Hepatitis A (got it)
Hepatitis B (got it)
Diphtheria (got it)
Tuberculosis (is there one?)
Rabies (maybe)
Yellow Fever (definitely, maybe necessary for border crossing)
Meningococcal meningitis (optional)
Japanese B encephalitis (optional)
Anti-malarials (necessary in some areas of Central and South America)
Dog Preventive Medical ($200) - just a guess for now.
Health Insurance: $388 for $1000 deductible, $340 for $2500 deductible - $100,000 maximum, includes emergency airlift (and surfing is not one of the restricted sports)
Medical subtotal: $840 - $888
The range is due to the difference in Health Insurance costs based on the size of the deductible. Instantly, one may think: “It only costs $44 dollars to save $1500 in case of an accident - must be a great deal”. This rate was only good for covering accidents outside of the United States - because everywhere else in the world does not charge so much money. I have the feeling that $1000 will buy a lot of medical procedure where I’m going. And if I went over that first $1000 it would probably be trip-ending anyways (and I would be heading back to work after healing), so that extra unlikely $1500 doesn’t make a difference at all - at least not $44 worth of difference.
Border Crossing Fees and Visas
Mexico - $20 visa - border to Guatemala $20
Guatemala - El Salvador - free as part of the CA-4
El Salvador - Nicaragua
Nicaragua - $5 visa - border to Costa Rica $3
Costa Rica - border to Panama $5
Panama - $5 visa- Columbia
Columbia - Ecuador
Ecuador - Peru
Peru - Chile
and back…
Border Crossing Fees and Visas Subtotal: $300 (estimated)
Just a rough estimate. The numbers that are up are from a year ago. Still more research needed for the remaining countries. A bigger expense will be the Panama to Columbia ferry.
Daily Expense
Mexico - $40
Guatemala - $15 - $30
El Salvador - $25 - $30
Nicaragua - $15 - $25
Costa Rica - $35
Panama - $20 - $30
Columbia
Ecuador
Peru
Chile
Daily Expense Subtotal
Cheap - $20 per day: $7300
Moderate - $30 per day: $10950
I think that by making extended stays in areas - and paying by the week - that this number could reasonably be on the cheaper side. (Especially with camping and sleeping in the truck or tent when possible)
Transportation
Truck Insurance : $500 ($235 for a 1-year Mexico Policy, $414 for premium policy)
Registration: $70
Gas - 20000 miles total - 1000 gallons gas at $4/gallon = $4000
Maintenance: $430
Transportation Subtotal: $5000
Once again, only a really rough estimate. Total mileage is difficult to estimate at this time. Same with gas prices (but they tend not to differ from USA prices by too much.
It’s a rough estimate, but I think most of the major expenses are covered.
Maintain Status Quo in States Subtotal: $4770
Medical subtotal: $840 - $888
Border Crossing Fees and Visas Subtotal: $300 (estimated)
Daily Expense Subtotal $7300-10950
Transportation Subtotal: $5000
Initial Total: 18210-21904
For planning purposes, I have to assume that the cost will be the more expensive of the range, and add 10%.
Trip Total: $24,094.40
Before I could take such a trip, I would have to finish paying off the credit card debt, which currently sits at about $7600.
Savings Needed: $31,700
Okay, now this is getting a little depressing.
Spread this out over the remaining 11 months and the per-month savings needed is only:
Savings per Month Needed: $2882
Since my take-home pay is currently sitting at $2675/month, there may be a problem.
I may need to work more overtime.
My March savings should give me a good idea of how close I can get. Just off the top of my head, if I take the February savings ($277/month), plus the credit card payments ($400/month), and the rent savings ($575/month). That already puts me at saving $1050/month, which is respectable (?), but a bit off from $2882/month.
The difference, ~$1800/month, is no laughing matter. I will not even think about what that is per day until I see if I can bring that number down through cutting expenses in March.
The frugal march goes on…
Paz,
sumdumsurfer
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03-11-2008, 09:06 AM #2
see what happens if you run out of coffee?
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03-11-2008, 10:23 AM #3
Awesome plan! So aim for the trip, do your best and if it takes longer so be it.
Mom to Emma, Spencer, Connor, Lily,Fletcher, Amelia and Adeline.
Mortgage $78,500/$15,200
EF 3 mo income barring
anymore emergencies
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03-11-2008, 11:45 AM #4
Watch the movie..Tourista or Turista, AND you will think twice before heading off to So America! Yikes!
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03-11-2008, 01:39 PM #5
Your plan sounds great.....a few questions if you don't mind???
1. are you sure that you can take your dog on this trip a lot of countries have quorantine (sp) laws.
2. with all the dicey politics in some of those countries aren't you at all concerned for your safety???
leezza
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03-11-2008, 01:42 PM #6
OOORRRR you could spend the same amount of time saving that money and invest it while getting rid of your debt and then while not taking on anymore debt(maybe you might buy a house and buy a car straight out from savings) you would then be in a position to take vacations whenever you wanted but you would still have something to come home too when you were done...retirement.
The math never lies, budget in INK!
Amount of Free items 2012 $391.33

Debt #2 12/31/12 CC $901.88
Debt #3 12/31/12 $3648.83
Madness, mayhem chaos...my work here is done!
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03-12-2008, 03:47 AM #7
Lovin your posts.
sounds like a wonderful plan and with determination im sure you could get there - you seem to have everything covered and well thought out!
did you get your coffee in the end lol.
I know what you mean about living in the present - I find myself, after a lot of changes doing that now and it feels great!
( there is a shot for TB - Its the BCG vaccination, we have it done at birth here)
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03-12-2008, 04:27 AM #8
also, even though you have 18 months bills etc that will be covered to give you a 6 month Leeway, what about a savings fund for when you come back straight away to cover general living expenses assuming that you are not working the first month you are back?
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Makes me think ..... sometimes I think the problem with us (read me and whoever feels they fit the bill) "responsible" "planner" types is that we never "just jump". Frequently it's a good thing, but sometimes it holds us back waiting for the heavens to be alighned.
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03-13-2008, 02:07 AM #10
M55FF:
The coffee! I just reread the post and I imagined myself endlessly wandering the mercado, lost in thought - never actually getting the coffee!
joyofsix: True - I could save a little longer, or I could scale back the trip and still leave in a year. The surf-seasons work out perfectly for Feb-Mar in northern Mexico, April-May in southern Mex/ Central America.
Ali Lee - I'll rent Turista. I'll even watch it in the dark... alone... with my back to an open door...
I think all other countries have the same percentage of crazy, "bad" people as the United States. I've never had a problem with people or federales - and I've spent over one year so far in Latin America (over many many trips). It's just like traveling in any city - be polite to others, follow local customs - and people will warmly welcome you.
leeza: 1. In Mexico and Central America it's proof of rabies/distemper vaccs for overland travel. Not sure about S. America. 2. Governments make a lot of noise and bluster at one another - but let me ask you a question: Do you personally dislike Venezuelans because the governments have words? Venezuelans don't personally dislike you either.
The only real worry I have is having wealth (a beat up truck, surfboard and vacation time is wealth to some peoples) around people who have very little. There are many ways to keep a low profile. The easiest is to become friends with local people where ever you go! The surly, unfriendly, obnoxious people usually get robbed first. Although there is always a chance it can happen to you - even just going to the store to get coffee.
Cricketlegs: That voice in my head that cautions me, and tells me to be more responsible... I'm going to name it Cricketlegs (j/k)
If I ever want to make a trip like this (and I do) - now is the time to do it. Once I have a wife and kids in my life - this will be an impossibility. I also dislike my career and need to reset that back to what is important to me. I still may buy a house with that money (well - put a small down payment - it is California). If I go on the trip I promise I will be responsible and not incur any more debt! 
Scattymum: I changed the entry on my webpage to read:
Is it financially feasible for someone in my situation?
Back home, fresh coffee brewing, it’s time for…
Estimating the Cost of One Year of Latin-American Travel
The savings-when-back is a bit of a trade-off. I'm sure I could stay at my sister's or mother's while job searching (and I would be job searching while on vacation - could you imagine an entire year in a hammock?). I'll ask about the BCG vacc - thanks!
TheRootedNomad: I think we all balance each other out (thread, forum, world, etc). I tend to jump too soon. I'm ready to leave on the trip now and put it all on my credit card. It's part of my history. So for all of the extra planning that I'm surviving with all of your help (and not jumping yet) - you have to go do something impulsive tomorrow. As long as it doesn't cost a lot of money... or hurt anyone... or is something you'll regret... Okay - now I'm stumped - and I don't want to be the cheerleader for frivolousness on the frugal forum and have people throw rotten tomatoes at me.
cissylu: Thanks for reading my first attempts at regular writing!
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03-13-2008, 03:17 PM #11
Okay - now I'm stumped - and I don't want to be the cheerleader for frivolousness on the frugal forum and have people throw rotten tomatoes at me.
I beg your pardon, rotten tomatoes--as if!
We got our tomatoes on sale, then we diced them, froze them, or canned them.
We don't DO rotten tomatoes! LOLThe math never lies, budget in INK!
Amount of Free items 2012 $391.33

Debt #2 12/31/12 CC $901.88
Debt #3 12/31/12 $3648.83
Madness, mayhem chaos...my work here is done!
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