The Duggars again lol

**northernmom2boys** · 10-06-2008, 10:23 PM

Ok I am not here to debate the number of kids they have ,to each his own
oK so tonight I am watching and the oldest id asking his girlfriend of 2 yrs to marry him.It was lovely,she said yes.I was waiting for them to kiss.Turns out they havent kissed yet.They are saving everything for the wedding night.
I have heard about keeping your self for the wedding night but even kissing?
What if he turns out to be the worst kisser on the earth lol

**northernmom2boys** · 10-06-2008, 10:26 PM

Oh and they had to get permission from parents to hold hands and they have chaperons with them
The parents said they had previous relationships and they have baggage from them so they dont want the kids to have the same problems.They dont force the whole courtship on the kids though,its each ones choice

**itsahumanzoo** · 10-06-2008, 10:26 PM

That's cute, but I am going to have to agree with you! Kissing is something special though, so I guess I can try to understand what they are doing...

**MomToTwoBoys** · 10-06-2008, 10:37 PM

I'd be concerned with how well the guy kisses and um, does other undescribable things.

The ideals they have behind this are cute and admirable, but I guess I'm just not old fashioned when I wonder...

what if their possible demise down the road is the result of something they could have found out about before getting married?

**Palooka** · 10-06-2008, 10:40 PM

I don't know why they need permission from their parents or even looked after. Aren't they legal adults. Maybe they want that though for accountability.

Good gravy it is a kiss! Not even a peck? lol I bet she has cooked for him and he got to try that part out.

**northernmom2boys** · 10-06-2008, 10:43 PM

they have not let go of their hands lol
they are both 20
Im not sure I would have the willpower
What am I talking about,I had two kids before we got married
But I swear we dodnt kiss lolol

**momof2joys** · 10-06-2008, 10:55 PM

Actually my best friends cousin did this!! She went to a college somewhere in Oaklahoma (I think), they couldn't kiss or hold hands, they had to go on group dates all the time and could never go alone, when it came time for everyone to go to bed, they would stand on the different sides of the school gym or yard, and tell the other good night, boys on one side, girls on the other!! Her cousin didn't have her first kiss until her wedding night, they couldn't even kiss when they were pronounced husband and wife!!! I think it was a form of Baptist religion, but I am not sure!!! Although I am pretty sure that is was a Baptist college that she went to!!

I thought it was cute that they waited until the wedding night to do it, but I didn't know until then that they hadn't even kissed yet!!!!

To each their own, right??!!!??

**IntlMom** · 10-06-2008, 11:10 PM

I know ppl who have courted like this too......it;s not for me, and I won't force it on my kids, but I respect them for it.

**IntlMom** · 10-06-2008, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by momof2joys

Actually my best friends cousin did this!! She went to a college somewhere in Oaklahoma (I think), they couldn't kiss or hold hands, they had to go on group dates all the time and could never go alone, when it came time for everyone to go to bed, they would stand on the different sides of the school gym or yard, and tell the other good night, boys on one side, girls on the other!! Her cousin didn't have her first kiss until her wedding night, they couldn't even kiss when they were pronounced husband and wife!!! I think it was a form of Baptist religion, but I am not sure!!! Although I am pretty sure that is was a Baptist college that she went to!!

I thought it was cute that they waited until the wedding night to do it, but I didn't know until then that they hadn't even kissed yet!!!!

To each their own, right??!!!??

This Baptist girl kissed quite a few boys before I found the right one!!

**pollypurebred39** · 10-06-2008, 11:27 PM

I wish I had saved all my first for my husband. I just didn't grow up in that kind of world. Given their background and faith I expect they will do just fine. My Grandmother had an arranged marriage and did not kiss, hold hands or anything else until her wedding day. They had 13 children and remained each others only until my Grandfather died when my mother was 12.

I wish them well.

**Luv2BeFrugal** · 10-06-2008, 11:30 PM

I think "old-fashioned" morals are something that's really lacking in our society these days... Though, "no kissing" is taking it a bit far. Saving (and other fiscal responsibility) were taught right along with those strict morals.

In some ways, I think many of us really missed out...

**Palooka** · 10-06-2008, 11:54 PM

You know what they say though. Kissing can be more personal than lots of other stuff.

**Palooka** · 10-07-2008, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by pollypurebred39

I wish I had saved all my first for my husband. I just didn't grow up in that kind of world. Given their background and faith I expect they will do just fine. My Grandmother had an arranged marriage and did not kiss, hold hands or anything else until her wedding day. They had 13 children and remained each others only until my Grandfather died when my mother was 12.

I wish them well.

Why? Do you think he would have done the same for you or feel the same? I noticed you said her wedding day..and not his.Why does it matter and what is the big deal? I mean if you are both in love now? I am curious to know. I'm just asking because I never regreted anything i've done before I married.

I'm glad I tested out that car and tried on those shoes.

**pollypurebred39** · 10-07-2008, 01:53 AM

Palooka,

I really didn't think about including my Grandfather in that statement but I should have, she was his first also. They were raised deep in the hills of Kentucky, she in a log cabin, he on a reservation. Deep convictions about morality.

My husband and I have had this conversation before, he too wishes I was his only. Neither of us our fond of memories old popping in our heads. I for one have deep regrets about most of the relationships I had before my husband, others I just regret. I don't feel that I gained anything knowing another man's touch other than my husbands. He by far is the best and most attentive lover I've ever had, I wouldn't have missed a thing not knowing another man. For us I guess we just regret that we took something so special and sacred and acted like our bodies were amusement parks. We didn't grow up with these beliefs, we just have reached a place in our lives where we understand the damage we did to ourselves and the baggage we now carry.

**Palooka** · 10-07-2008, 03:04 AM

[QUOTE][I really didn't think about including my Grandfather in that statement but I should have, she was his first also. They were raised deep in the hills of Kentucky, she in a log cabin, he on a reservation. Deep convictions about morality./QUOTE]

Most don't though when it comes to Adam and Eve.I'm glad I could remind you and I am being nice here.

My husband and I have had this conversation before, he too wishes I was his only. Neither of us our fond of memories old popping in our heads. I for one have deep regrets about most of the relationships I had before my husband, others I just regret. I don't feel that I gained anything knowing another man's touch other than my husbands. He by far is the best and most attentive lover I've ever had, I wouldn't have missed a thing not knowing another man. For us I guess we just regret that we took something so special and sacred and acted like our bodies were amusement parks. We didn't grow up with these beliefs, we just have reached a place in our lives where we understand the damage we did to ourselves and the baggage we now carry.

I honestly don't find you guys caring baggage at all. You do that when you have a blended family and you sacrifice your love for each other.Like kids..

I don't think either of you regret what real life is and has been. But I still don't get it...

Why do you need that satisfaction? I don't at all and I am not held under that umbrella of condimnation.