Can anyone identify these for me?

**Momto2Boyz** · 12-27-2008, 01:06 PM

Dh and I bought an old ugly armoire a few years ago at an auction (I stripped it and it turned out to be an old beautiful mahogany armoire, but that is another story).

Anyhoo, when we got it home, we realized that it was full of old spoons. We think it was someone's spoon collection. There were spoons from all over the world dating back quite a bit. We've sold off most of them on ebay, nothing really of value, they were just neat for spoon collectors.

These were in the collection, and they are definately old, and they have makers marks on them, but I can't get a good picture of the marks (in the bowl of the spoon there is a crest that has a crown and says CvC) and on the back there is another mark, but the impressions are not the best. The seal on the back of the handle looks like an angel in a circle, letters imprinted that the first is not legible but the second two are WA and the number 1726.

I have been trying to figure out what they are and can't find anyone to appraise them for me, becuase none of the antique stores here know exactly what they are!

So any help would be appreciated! Here is a link to the photo album with the pictures!

http://www.frugalvillage.com/forums/...hp?albumid=242

**MTS04** · 12-27-2008, 02:07 PM

I believe it is a salt or condiment spoon. Is it silver (sterling?) can you take a picture of the marks, I may be able to help you if I can see the initials (the WA etc) The seal in the bowl may mean it's a master's salt spoon, but hard to tell without seeing the seal. 1726 may be the year of it's manufacture, again, hard to tell without seeing the placement.

It could also be a sauce ladel, but hard to tell without seeing the entire spoon.
Wanted to add, depending on it's size, it could be a cream soup spoon.

Hope this helps some.

**starsapphire** · 12-27-2008, 02:20 PM

Years ago I had an old antique carved ivory thingy and I didn't have any information on it so I took pictures of all different angles of it and the best pictures I could of the mark on the bottom and mailed them with a letter describing it to an auction house. They wrote me back and told me all about it so you could do the same thing if you can't find any info on your spoons on the web. Good luck!

**nuisance26** · 12-27-2008, 03:05 PM

~These sites may help: http://www.silvercollection.it/index.html
http://www.silvercollecting.com/ ~

**nuisance26** · 12-27-2008, 03:23 PM

~It occurred to me that this might be pewter so I started searching and found this on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Late-17th-Centur...3A1%7C294%3A50 ~

**nuisance26** · 12-27-2008, 03:38 PM

~Some more examples: http://cgi.ebay.com/17TH-18TH-CENTUR...3A2%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.com/PEWTER-DINNER-SP...3A3%7C294%3A50

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Here's an image search for 'english antique pewter spoon". http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...Search+Images~

**MTS04** · 12-27-2008, 07:26 PM

nuisance26, thanks, I didn't even think of Pewter.

There isn't a lot of record of the pewterer's touchmarks available online. however, the pewter society may be able to help you.
They will try to identify the item free of charge.

Here's the link to them for you : http://www.pewtersociety.org/id_service.html

Unfortunately, I called a few friends and the angel touchmark is common, usually the angel is holding something like a horn, scale, leaf etc. Those belong to different makers. I'll keep looking.

Not much more info, but here's some on the angel touchmark:
ANGEL: The Angel mark on pewter is of Continental origin, broadly speaking. It is seldom seen on English pewter. This touch-mark is used in conj unction with the maker's mark. The Angel may be flying, or standing with a palm branch in hand or with sword and scales. The use of this mark was strictly reserved for metal of the finest quality. It was adopted throughout most European countries, except France, as a sign of the very best, from the middle of the 17th century.

**Momto2Boyz** · 12-28-2008, 08:40 AM

niusance26 YOU ARE AMAZING! Thank you soooooooo much! We've searched so many sites looking for these and every time I checked ebay I couldn't find anything like them, but that is exactly what they are!

Thank you so much!