What do you think of the New York, all salt outlawed in all restaurants bill

**NikoSan999** · 06-26-2010, 03:50 PM

I replied in another thread and brought this up as an example. Made me curious as to what others thought of it. Links to articles below.

It the New York bill A. 10120. Outlaws salt in any restaurant in the state of New York. $1000 fine for each violation. This is not only fast food but ALL restaurants.

Now it's not only wanting to tell us what is good for us to consume but now they're trying to control it. Meanwhile they put carpet glue in ALL cigarettes to put a "stop burn" in it. Can't sniff it, the glue, against the law, but we can apparently smoke it. Go figure.

Anyway, opinions on the no salt in New York restaurants

Chefs Call Proposed New York Salt Ban 'Absurd'

Gandhi's ghost: New bill makes salt illegal in New York restaurants?

**RaineyDaye** · 06-26-2010, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by NikoSan999;1385160
It the New York bill A. 10120. Outlaws salt in any restaurant in the state of New York. $1000 fine for each violation. This is not only fast food but ALL restaurants.

[url=http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/new_york_state/chefs-call-proposed-new-york-salt-ban-absurd-20100310-akd

Chefs Call Proposed New York Salt Ban 'Absurd'[/url]

Gandhi's ghost: New bill makes salt illegal in New York restaurants?

PROPOSED is the key word - lots of stupid bills are proposed but not passed - FOX should report the facts...

**Luckybustert** · 06-26-2010, 03:59 PM

I think the lunatics are running the asylum. To comply with this law, they'd have to eliminate not only table salt but also commerically prepared/processed ingredients which are notoriously high in salt. Salt is used in baking and cooking to make foods taste better, and our bodies also need some salt to survive. Place responsibility for excess consumption where it belongs - on the individual. We do NOT need the government to control every aspect of our lives right down to the food choices we make. We just need people to take responsibility for their own choices.

**monkeywrangler71** · 06-26-2010, 04:05 PM

It does not outlaw salt in restaurants. It would ban the addition of salt during food preparation, so that consumers could control the amount by adding it themselves at the table.

**Luckybustert** · 06-26-2010, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by RaineyDaye

FOX should report the facts...

FOX reported the proposed ban. Said proposal exists. Therefore, FOX reported a fact. It was reported by a variety of other news outlets as well, both in the U.S. and overseas.

**Luckybustert** · 06-26-2010, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by monkeywrangler71

It does not outlaw salt in restaurants. It would ban the addition of salt during food preparation, so that consumers could control the amount by adding it themselves at the table.

To effectively eliminate addition of salt during preparation, you'd have to eliminate salt-laden highly processed ingredients used to create the restaurants' dishes. It doesn't make sense to remove table salt and look the other way where processed foods are concerned. Processed foods are one of the highest sources of salt in the diet, but we're going to ban table salt? I'm just not following the logic.

**zakity** · 06-26-2010, 04:39 PM

I am an adult. I think that if I am old enough to earn the money to eat at a restaurant that I am old enough to choose if I want my food prepared with salt in it, with "lower salt" or with "no salt". I don't need the government being my parent and telling me what I can and cannot have.

I was ticked off the other day. DH and I went and bought shakes from Burgerville (high end fast food). The shakes are to die for. We get about one a year, maybe two if we are being decadent. They had the fat and calories and such on the receipt. Ok, I know they are laden with fat and are bad for you. I don't need to be told that.

**Luckybustert** · 06-26-2010, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by zakity

I am an adult. I think that if I am old enough to earn the money to eat at a restaurant that I am old enough to choose if I want my food prepared with salt in it, with "lower salt" or with "no salt". I don't need the government being my parent and telling me what I can and cannot have.

I was ticked off the other day. DH and I went and bought shakes from Burgerville (high end fast food). The shakes are to die for. We get about one a year, maybe two if we are being decadent. They had the fat and calories and such on the receipt. Ok, I know they are laden with fat and are bad for you. I don't need to be told that.

I agree with you....I'm an adult and I am responsible for my own behavior and choices. I do not need the government to be my nanny!!!

Burgerville shakes are AWESOME, and I don't give a fat rat's patootie how much fat and calories they have. When I choose to have one, I'm going to enjoy every single fat gram and calorie no matter how many there are! (I don't have them often, maybe 2 or 3 times a year, but when I do....oh, they're soooooo good! I especially love the blackberry ones

) Their sweet potato fries (WITH SALT!) are also a favorite.

**Contrary Housewife** · 06-26-2010, 04:56 PM

It's absurd. It'll never pass.(In that form) No congressman wants to eat anyplace where salt is forbidden from the kitchen, the food will be awful. (I know that food can taste great without added salt, but this is restaurant cooking we're talking about here). No professional chef will sit still while congress tries to tell them how and what they can cook. Thank god that the restaurant industry is huge and will fight this idiocy.

**NikoSan999** · 06-26-2010, 04:58 PM

If this comes to be I, just speaking for me here, believe it will be laid upon health care expenses. It's a leading cause of high blood pressure, yada yada yada and EVERYONE is paying the price of everyone elses healthcare especially the ones who don't have insurance. So let's take away the salt where possible and bring down the cost of health insurance. Like that is going to happen. I had a niece who used to salt bologna sandwiches...at home.

Oh, by the way, I use no salt in cooking whatsoever. Only in processed, what's already there. Not on popcorn, watermelon, cooking green beans, nothing. I just thought I'd mention that. At my house everyone salts there own. I DO believe tho if I want salt I should be able to have it and I don't send food back at a restaurant because it's salted. I have eaten Mickey D's french fries twice ( love them!!! ) and twice I've had to pull off the side of the road and have the kid drive cause I though I was going to pass out. I have high blood pressure. Maybe a couple times a year I crave them. My own fault and I take responsibility. Last time was way over a year. If I go ever again I'll ask for unsalted. That should throw them for a loop!

**frugalwarrior2** · 06-26-2010, 06:16 PM

Throw tomatoes if you want but I like the idea. I can't have just about everything in a restaurant. Even if you order plain veg. they salt them. We are all dying making these decisions. Throw away.

**Luckybustert** · 06-26-2010, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by frugalwarrior2

Throw tomatoes if you want

And waste perfectly good tomatoes, which I enjoy on white bread, with mayo and SALT???

I found the following interesting: Sodium Chloride - High Blood Pressure - The Great Salt Myth

I do think some people may need to restrict their salt intake. But I also believe it's wrong to throw the baby out with the bath water. You don't ban something just because it's problematic for some people. People die from peanut allergies, but do you see them rushing to ban peanuts? No. It's up to the people are allergic to them to stay away from them. And people who are sensitive to salt might address this without impacting everyone else too.....how about calling the restaurant in advance to ask if they could prepare a favorite dish without salt? Many restaurants are happy to cooperate if you explain your needs in a nice way. But no one is "entitled" to eat in restaurants....if they don't or won't honor your request, spend your money at a different restaurant. Or cook salt-free foods at home. But PLEASE don't force the rest of us to live by your dietary restrictions!

**MomToTwoBoys** · 06-26-2010, 07:00 PM

Well, considering 9 out of 10 Americans eat way too much sodium every day, I think it's a good move. It's helping people to learn that having all of that salt is only killing them. If they want to keep eating all of that salt, then let the dummies die off. It'll help control the population.

**Luckybustert** · 06-26-2010, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by MomToTwoBoys

Well, considering 9 out of 10 Americans eat way too much sodium every day, I think it's a good move. It's helping people to learn that having all of that salt is only killing them. If they want to keep eating all of that salt, then let the dummies die off. It'll help control the population.

I respect that you view this differently, but I don't think it was necessary to call me or anyone a dummy or to suggest it'd be a good thing if we died from our choice to eat salt ("it'll help control the population").

**imagine** · 06-26-2010, 07:26 PM

The bill states "No owner or operator of a restaurant in this state shall use salt in any form in the preparation of any food for consumption by customers of such restaurant, including food to be consumed on the premises of such restaurant or off of such premises.” emphasis mine.

It appears to me that it is saying that the cooks can not shake salt ( brine etc) in their recipes. Customers can shake at the table all the salt they want.

There would be still salt in the foods as salt is naturally in foods (veggies, meats, milks etc)

It is my understanding that in general most people would get enough salt in ordinarily foods without a chef adding salt and without ever shaking a salt shaker.

Most restaurant meal as of now have 3 or 4 time a daily recommended amount of sodium in one meal. I have heard that a counter measure to this bill people/chefs are tossing around is to have a max amount of sodium allowed (only allowed to go over if the sodium content is natural present in the foods)

As a side note: I thought that the process food industry was working/ or suppose to be working on reducing their salt level in foods.