1st political commercial about the debt

**sinopa27** · 07-26-2011, 09:00 AM

I just saw a political commercial talking about how the government is trying to take away social security. I guess its time for the political commercials to bombard us with a bunch of mess for the next 1 1/2 years. We won't know what is factual and what is fiction.....assuming we know anything close to the truth anyway!!
sinopa

**Nishu** · 07-26-2011, 09:49 AM

The system is a mess.

**Greebo** · 07-26-2011, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by sinopa27

I just saw a political commercial talking about how the government is trying to take away social security. I guess its time for the political commercials to bombard us with a bunch of mess for the next 1 1/2 years. We won't know what is factual and what is fiction.....assuming we know anything close to the truth anyway!!
sinopa

Clearly based on the above you hate children and want old people to starve.

**pollypurebred39** · 07-26-2011, 12:10 PM

"assuming we know anything close to the truth anyway"

I honestly don't think we do. The longer I live, the more I believe they just blow smoke up our butts.

**Spirit Deer** · 07-26-2011, 12:16 PM

If it's using hyperbole, it's fiction with maybe a kernel of truth. Hardly anything is all or nothing, but each side has to portray it that way to try to spin it so it makes the other guy look bad and the person supported by the ad look sainted.

I wish people would get over the idea that someone, by affiliation with a certain political party, is either all bad or all good. Each candidate should be judged on the issues, ALL issues, not just a few hot-button topics. And I wish voters would look beyond the ads and do some research to get to the truth. Most of all, I wish all the ~~news channels~~ political opinion channels would quit racheting up the rhetoric for ratings. IMO, they've done more to pull this country apart than just about any other group of people on the planet, including the politicians themselves.

Voters also need to demand, when a candidate makes a statement about doing something, they also come out with a plan how to pay for whatever they promise, such as more money for education or fixing our infrastructure. Anything less is completely meaningless.

I've been seeing ads about the budget fight for a while now.

Voters need to wise up, too. Here's reality: Cutting taxes equals cutting programs. Adding or increasing existing programs equals raising taxes. Anyone who says otherwise is lying or clueless. Efficient government is an oxymoron and that's another reality.

Dang I hate elections.

**pollypurebred39** · 07-26-2011, 12:21 PM

Add to that I'd like if they were not allowed to clearly lie about their position on things. Their voting record should be what they run on. Nothing speaks the truth better than actions.

Voting record= truth
Election ad= a bunch of hot air

**Anna43** · 07-26-2011, 09:43 PM

They've been playing an ad here that states children are going to starve and go without education due to budget cuts. My thought was isn't it the parents responsibility to feed their children not the states? Ditto pre-school education.

Social security on the other hand we were forced to pay into from the time we started working so taking that away would be bad news for most of us drawing it. We saved what we could for retirement but the money withheld for social security reduced our ability to save.

We are getting at least 2 to 4 calls from presidential candidates and/or to participate in surveys for weeks now. Our penalty for our state having the first caucus in the U.S.A. It has gotten to the point that the day after the presidential election candidates are trolling the state for support. Never ends.

**bumplett** · 07-26-2011, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by Anna43

They've been playing an ad here that states children are going to starve and go without education due to budget cuts. My thought was isn't it the parents responsibility to feed their children not the states? Ditto pre-school education.
Social security on the other hand we were forced to pay into from the time we started working so taking that away would be bad news for most of us drawing it. We saved what we could for retirement but the money withheld for social security reduced our ability to save.

We are getting at least 2 to 4 calls from presidential candidates and/or to participate in surveys for weeks now. Our penalty for our state having the first caucus in the U.S.A. It has gotten to the point that the day after the presidential election candidates are trolling the state for support. Never ends.

Agreed.

I haven't seen any commercials yet - nor heard any on the radio - I get irritated enough over the commercials suggesting we all run out and apply for food stamps so we can eat better.

ugg.

**frugalfranny** · 07-26-2011, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by pollypurebred39

"assuming we know anything close to the truth anyway"

I honestly don't think we do. The longer I live, the more I believe they just blow smoke up our butts.

here........here

**bumplett** · 07-26-2011, 11:32 PM

I need a bigger chimney.

**sinopa27** · 07-27-2011, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by Greebo

Clearly based on the above you hate children and want old people to starve.

NO Greebo! I am referring to the fact that the commercials are going to bombard us with a lot of stuff that no one will know what is truthful or factual. I wish the media would stop doing things to make us fight each other rather than helping us to solve our problems.