Welfare fraud update

**frugalfarmwife** · 08-24-2007, 09:04 AM

First, so sorry I haven't been around a lot, it's been really hectic here with work and a lot of other things going on.

We HAVE gathered the information on her working under the table and have documented the boyfriends living here, we're (the other family and I) willing to come forward on it too.

What we're doing is waiting for my friends dissolution to be finalized (she's the one married to the sorry excuse of a man that's living with the neighbor).

Our reason for waiting is that said "man" is the one that had the dissolution papers drawn up and he agreed to child support, if he gets nasty and changes his mind there is the possibility he could not only get out of child support but even go after my friend for spousal support for HIMSELF, and I wouldn't put it past him.

BTW, he has also done a LOT of dealing under the table, so he's probably going to end up in a good bit of trouble too once that's brought to light.

The biggest concern right now is just getting the dissolution over and done with.

Oh, and in an ICKY twist, ends up two of the kids have classes together at the Jr. High, sigh, this has NOT been a good thing. Neighbors kid is already telling people that friends son is "just about my step brother". I'm going with my friend to get her sons classes changed before real trouble happens, these kids are totally different and it WILL cause trouble.

Thanks for your concern everyone, I will keep you updated.

kj

**MomOfTwoGirls** · 08-24-2007, 09:31 AM

I was wondering about you. Been meaning to email but it's been insanely crazy here, too.

I'll be glad when your friend's divorce goes through and you can turn those sorry excuses for humans in to the authorities. Hopefully y'all can get the classes changed for your friend's son. I'm sure if she explains the situation to the principal, it won't be a problem at all.

**tigo** · 08-24-2007, 09:42 AM

Sending hugs and positive energy for everyone involved. Hope the dissolution is quick.

**frugalfarmwife** · 08-24-2007, 10:13 AM

Oh and also, my friend won't be in any trouble regarding her "spouse" working under the table, she's always kept her finances separate from his, she's always been the main bread winner and paid the house payments and her car payments. He paid the utilities (umm, usually late too) The biggie is for her to get all the bills under control and then get the house refi'd, he already signed it over to her. She's taken on babysitting two children along with her full time job, she'll make it just fine, she's got quite a few of us

her on.

And just a few of the GEMS out of this sorry excuse of a mans mouth recently:

1) I'm not giving you a penny of child support until the judge says I have to.

2) She (his girlfriend) doesn't NEED my money, she's totally self sufficient on her child support! (UGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!)

Yep, it's hard not to drag him out of his truck, toss him on the manure pile and flip it so there's no evidence, trust me, VERY HARD!

kj

**annymoll** · 08-24-2007, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by frugalfarmwife

Oh and also, my friend won't be in any trouble regarding her "spouse" working under the table, she's always kept her finances separate from his, she's always been the main bread winner

kj

If they were married and filed income taxes together she could still get into trouble if spouse worked under the table. She signed that the income and all statements were true .What a mess- both sides lined with fraud and some dishonesty. I am sorry you are in the middle of it all.

**karone** · 08-25-2007, 09:52 AM

hope u guys can get it straightened out and ur friend not in trouble.

**grneyegrl** · 08-25-2007, 01:08 PM

no her friend wo nt.. there is now somthing called the innocint spouse(sp) law or something like it.. she doesnt know how much he made and cant make him tell her and if he did,know that it was the truth.

anyone else hear of this

**annymoll** · 08-25-2007, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by grneyegrl

no her friend wo nt.. there is now somthing called the innocint spouse(sp) law or something like it.. she doesnt know how much he made and cant make him tell her and if he did,know that it was the truth.

anyone else hear of this

If you don't know he worked, that would be one thing. But if you knew he worked, and did not claim that income on taxes,you have both commited fraud.Poster stated it was known.(IRS is always glad to answer those types of questions, if there is doubt!)

**grneyegrl** · 08-25-2007, 08:11 PM

but u may not know how much he made if there were no statements..or if the about told to her were correct..also did she file by her self or as a couple..because u do have that option..i guess i missed or forgot the orginal post..

can u tell i dont accept no easily

**frugalfarmwife** · 08-25-2007, 08:55 PM

My friend did talk to her attorney about this and it actually is part of the dissolution, he is responsible for any and ALL fees/bills/etc for his business, she is not liable, thank goodness.

Now I won't turn him in for the working under the table but her sister will probably do that, she's got a REAL ax to grind with him.

Thanks again guys

kj

**annymoll** · 08-25-2007, 10:39 PM

I was worried about you FarmWife. I was concerned that you would be called into court.A place I deeply dislike!LOL I am happy for your friend(She can do better.....smile).

**frugalfarmwife** · 08-25-2007, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by annymoll

I was worried about you FarmWife. I was concerned that you would be called into court.A place I deeply dislike!LOL I am happy for your friend(She can do better.....smile).

Awww, thanks Anny, I appreciate the concerns. Now I WILL be there for the dissolution along with several others, we're there for HER.

And for the welfare fraud and for the tax evasion we can turn them in anonomously online, we're just waiting to the dissolution to be finalized. This guy is just SUCH a childish TURD!

And she CAN do better, she is doing for herself and learning to be self sufficient, she is a very good and capable person who needs to realize just how good a person she really is. Heck, she's realizing that she didn't have a husband, she had a third child.

kj

**Daisygirl** · 08-26-2007, 08:25 AM

I think your friend must have been married to my ex-husband! He regularly comments that he does not have to pay support until the judge tells him to. Ew.

Best of luck to your friend, and I think it is just fabulous this scumbag will get into trouble. Certain people think the laws just don't pertain to them, and I think it is very important for them to have the awakening that, yes, they too, must follow the rules.