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    Drink a shot of grain alcohol, have a party.
    Drink a gallon of grain alcohol, have a funeral.

    Like many things in life, a little bit in the right places may be beneficial where regular exposure could be bad.
    If you could kick in the pants the person responsible for your problems, you wouldn't be able to sit for a month.

    Did you know that a 4 year student paying $20,000/year who finances their education graduates with over $103,000 in debt to start? But a student who works and pays cash and takes 6 years to graduate ends with $6,300 in their pocket! So much for "getting a head start by financing!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Greebo View Post
    Drink a shot of grain alcohol, have a party.
    Drink a gallon of grain alcohol, have a funeral.

    Like many things in life, a little bit in the right places may be beneficial where regular exposure could be bad.
    ~I can't read the article because 'the connection was reset' but I just wanted to say that this isn't the best example to make your point for two reasons. The HPV vaccine is given to woman as a preventive 'cure'. I am not aware of any way in which grain alcohol is promoted as a cure. Second it is given to children and young women. If your child ingested a small amount of rat poison or alcohol would you not call the doctor? Would it worry you? What if your favorite brand of pain reliever started to include small amounts of rat poison? Would you still take it?~
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    I was never 100% sure why I chose not to have my daughters take this vaccine....Now I know, thank you for the article.
    And Greebo, I got your point!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuisance26 View Post
    ~I can't read the article because 'the connection was reset' but I just wanted to say that this isn't the best example to make your point for two reasons. The HPV vaccine is given to woman as a preventive 'cure'. I am not aware of any way in which grain alcohol is promoted as a cure. Second it is given to children and young women. If your child ingested a small amount of rat poison or alcohol would you not call the doctor? Would it worry you? What if your favorite brand of pain reliever started to include small amounts of rat poison? Would you still take it?~
    Yeah, I get your point - but its a shame you can't read the article, because what they're talking about is borax. A common household item.

    Here is the entire article for those who cannot read it.
    NaturalNews) What do rat poison and the HPV vaccine have in common? The answer is a hazardous chemical known as sodium borate. Savvy readers may wonder what a toxin that is commonly used to kill rats is doing in the ingredient list for the HPV vaccine that is currently being pushed on girls as young as nine and is even being considered for men and boys. Unfortunately, the answer isn't very comforting, especially for new U.S. residents for whom the HPV injection containing sodium borate is now mandated.

    What is Sodium Borate?

    Sodium borate, a boric acid salt also known as borax, has many common uses. In addition to its use as a rat poison, it is also used in laundry detergents, cosmetics, enamel glazes, flame retardants, and buffer solutions in chemistry. However, sodium borate also has antifungal properties, which means that its probable reason for being in the vaccine is to act as a preservative.

    Sodium Borate Banned as Food Additive

    Sodium borate is used as a food additive in some countries, but it is now outlawed in many places. For example, one Australian government recall site notes: "Product is Borax (sodium borate) which is a non permitted food additive and is harmful to health." So, if it's "harmful to health," why is it being added to the HPV vaccine?

    No Longer Used in Medical Preparations

    The U.S. National Library of Medicine states in an article that boric acid is "no longer commonly used in medical preparations." It's a good thing, too, considering that the U.S. National Library of Medicine also reports that this substance used to be used to disinfect and treat wounds and that individuals "who received such treatment over and over again got sick, and some died." In fact, the U.S. National Library of Medicine provides the number for Poison Control for people exposed to this chemical and notes that treatment for those exposed to it may include gastric lavage (stomach pumping), dialysis, and liquids by mouth or IV.

    Sodium Borate Poisoning Symptoms Mimic Reactions to HPV Vaccine

    Sadly, the information about sodium borate gets even scarier. Another government website article states that exposure to sodium borate can cause convulsions and other ill health effects. Interestingly enough, young girls who receive the HPV vaccine have reported similar symptoms to those that appear in cases of sodium borate poisoning. This particular government site provides the following warning regarding this chemical: "WARNING! HARMFUL IF SWALLOWED, INHALED OR ABSORBED THROUGH SKIN. CAUSES IRRITATION TO SKIN, EYES AND RESPIRATORY TRACT." Given this information, is sodium borate really something that should be injected into humans? This is something the reader should carefully consider, along with the previously reported information, before choosing to receive the controversial HPV vaccine.
    The article is very long on speculation, and very short on actual source data, except where it backs up the speculation they want to back up. There are links in the article, but notably, no links in the article to substantiate the claim of "young girls who receive the HPV vaccine have reported similar symptoms to those that appear in cases of sodium borate poisoning".

    The article does specify that *repeated* exposure is harmful. But an HPV vaccine isn't something you get repeatedly.
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    Did you know that a 4 year student paying $20,000/year who finances their education graduates with over $103,000 in debt to start? But a student who works and pays cash and takes 6 years to graduate ends with $6,300 in their pocket! So much for "getting a head start by financing!"


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    ~Thanks for copying the article for me. I appreciate that. You still didn't answer my question though.~
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuisance26 View Post
    ~Thanks for copying the article for me. I appreciate that. You still didn't answer my question though.~
    Sorry - I thought I did but realize you're right.

    Honest answer. I don't know.

    See, my intent here isn't so much to defend the practice - I think it bears looking into, if it hasn't already been analyzed to death - but to defuse any "panic response" that might be likely as a result of an inflammatory article title and biased article.
    If you could kick in the pants the person responsible for your problems, you wouldn't be able to sit for a month.

    Did you know that a 4 year student paying $20,000/year who finances their education graduates with over $103,000 in debt to start? But a student who works and pays cash and takes 6 years to graduate ends with $6,300 in their pocket! So much for "getting a head start by financing!"


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    ~Thank you for answering and I'm glad to hear that you feel it bears looking into. People should have all the facts if they're going to make an informed decision.~
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuisance26 View Post
    ~Thank you for answering and I'm glad to hear that you feel it bears looking into. People should have all the facts if they're going to make an informed decision.~
    My thoughts, exactly.
    If you could kick in the pants the person responsible for your problems, you wouldn't be able to sit for a month.

    Did you know that a 4 year student paying $20,000/year who finances their education graduates with over $103,000 in debt to start? But a student who works and pays cash and takes 6 years to graduate ends with $6,300 in their pocket! So much for "getting a head start by financing!"


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    hmm is borax a rat poison or is it in rat poison for another reason ,off to google
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    Typical active ingredients are: brodificoum, diphacinone, warfarin, bromadiolone, and others. Most of these products include green dyes for a characteristic appearance

    Rat poisons are anticoagulants , ie the rat bleeds to death , borax is NOT an anticoagulant ,its not there (if it is ) to poison the rat ,its probably there as a preservative
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    Quote Originally Posted by daisymay1960 View Post
    its not there (if it is ) to poison the rat ,its probably there as a preservative

    Yummy! Would you like a little preserved rat with your toast and cheese madam?

    Wonder if it's like wine and gets better with age?

    Okay sorry.... I'm a weirdo and can see humor in the strangest of things and sometimes the board could use a little of that lol.

    /hijack.

    Carry on.

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    OMG I fell like a fool I let my girls get they hpv shots.. grrrrr just goes to show you cant trust you doc ... no wonder they felt so bad after they got the shots...

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