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Thread: HMO vs PPO
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07-02-2010, 12:44 AM #1
HMO vs PPO
DH started his new job today and we were given the option choose between a HMO and PPO. The HMO is more per month, but less for hospitalization and there is no deductible. The PPO is a little bit less per month, but more for services and hospital stays.
DD goes to speech therapy once a week. I have orthopedic issues with my feet. DH is on meds for blood pressure, cholesterol and blood sugar.
I'm just wondering if we should put out more per month knowing that right now it saves us in the long run with our current issues.
We've always had a PPO. Is there a downside to HMOs? I appreciate any input.Working on Our Debt a Day at a Time:
Chase #1: Paid $1307.12 of $1925.04
Bank of America: Paid $1054 of $1600
Dillard's: Paid $953 of $1750
Medical (too much to list so I am going one at a time):
Amex #1: Paid $3975.50 of $3975.50 Paid in Full 3/09
Chase #2: Paid $4489.75 of $4489.75 Paid in Full 12/09
Macy's: Paid $337.24 of $337.24 Paid in Full 9/10
Lane Bryant: $300 of $300 Paid in Full 7/10
MRI Paid $1080 of $1080 Paid in Full 2/11
Amex #2: Paid $8286.17 of $8286.17 Paid in Full 7/11
Foot Surgery: Paid $1759 of $1759 Paid in Full 8/11
Furniture: Paid $2000 of $2000 Paid in Full 3/12
2012 Fling 319/2012
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07-02-2010, 01:08 AM #2
Be sure to find out which doctors they use...........that could be a real issue! Are you allowed to keep your current dr's or do you have to change to theirs?
Finding new dr's is the pits!! IMO!
If you will have a co-pay once a week for the speech therapy.......do the math......may work out to go with the cheaper fee for service. Also......the RX......if it isn't a generic drug........what do you pay with each? If it IS generic........what do you pay?
I would request their booklet from each to see what was covered and NOT COVERED! Most will send them .....but it takes awhile so you will have to get on it if you have a time line to pick.
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07-02-2010, 01:17 AM #3
Ok, a little more info.
- Prescription coverage is the same regardless of PPO or HMO
- DD's pediatrican, DH's priamary doc, and my OBGYN are all on both plans
Working on Our Debt a Day at a Time:
Chase #1: Paid $1307.12 of $1925.04
Bank of America: Paid $1054 of $1600
Dillard's: Paid $953 of $1750
Medical (too much to list so I am going one at a time):
Amex #1: Paid $3975.50 of $3975.50 Paid in Full 3/09
Chase #2: Paid $4489.75 of $4489.75 Paid in Full 12/09
Macy's: Paid $337.24 of $337.24 Paid in Full 9/10
Lane Bryant: $300 of $300 Paid in Full 7/10
MRI Paid $1080 of $1080 Paid in Full 2/11
Amex #2: Paid $8286.17 of $8286.17 Paid in Full 7/11
Foot Surgery: Paid $1759 of $1759 Paid in Full 8/11
Furniture: Paid $2000 of $2000 Paid in Full 3/12
2012 Fling 319/2012
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07-02-2010, 01:22 AM #4
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07-02-2010, 06:28 AM #5
I hate our PPO. "Bad" regular insurance was better than this. I just had to have a sonogram and we had to pay 1/2 of it. Our "bad" insurance paid the whole bill when I was having pg related sonograms. The sure take our $$$ every month but they don't pay for much.
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07-02-2010, 08:17 AM #6
HMO are not liked where I live. It might be that many of the doctors are not on them.
I always thought that HMO stood for Health Management Organization and that they kept thier cost done my managing the cases. That the docs had to have more approval to do things or the HMO wouldn't pay. The few people I know who have an HMO say often things like "Well the doc wanted to do that but our HMO wouldn't agree". Make me wonder what would happen if they thought that you DD had enough therapy or didn't need it.
Again, I only see HMOs though the bias against them that is apparent in my community so it might not be an accurate or fair interpretation."Everyday as your walking down the street, everybody that you met has an original point of view" -Arthur PBS
Imagine - Wife of 18 years to Hubby
Mom to Buddy (son 15) and Little Miss ( daughter 11)
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07-02-2010, 08:28 AM #7
I know a person who has an HMO and has terribly high chlorestrol; and the meds she needs to take are out of the ordinary and they won't cover them. I also have heard where I live that people don't like HMO's. I also think insurances are getting away from paying more and more; meaning higher and higher deductibles.
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07-02-2010, 08:33 AM #8
i love my aetna HMO, but remember, you have to play by their rules. pre approvals, etc.
11% gross to retirement
10% takehome to tithe and offerings
emergency fund maintained at 3000(works for me)
credit card debt 7500
mortgage free
freedom accounts/sinking funds that ebb and flow
then live on the rest!
i am trying something new. LDS church advises savings or debt repayment should be the same as the tithe. 10% each.
"i create prosperity, abundance, and savings for me and my household"
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07-02-2010, 09:47 AM #9
What kemma said. Check to see what each plan requires for specialist appointments. Do you need a primary care doctor as a gatekeeper? Meaning, even if you know the primary care doctor won't be able to help, will you need to go there first to get in the system to see a specialist?
Good luck!
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07-02-2010, 10:54 AM #10
PPO
dont like anything about hmo's
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07-02-2010, 11:04 AM #11
Love my PPO. Since October I have been hospitalized twice for a total of 21 days. My charges totaled $200,000. All I had to pay was $500. I've also had a PICC line twice and a combined total of 30 days (and counting) of at home IV antibiotics. A seven day supply for my antibiotics is a little over $4000, of which I pay nothing.
I do not need a referral to see any of my specialists, don't need pre-certs for tests and I get to choose any doctor I please. I had an HMO many years ago and it was a nightmare. I cannot find one thing I like about an HMO and will never have one again.DD (19)
DS (16)
DH (Knocking on 40's door)
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07-02-2010, 12:41 PM #12
Thanks everyone!
This a lot of think about. If we went with the HMO, DH doesn't have a problem going to his primary care doc for specialist recs. I on the other hand can't stand our primary doc so I would need to find a new one if they have to be our hub for all other treatment.Working on Our Debt a Day at a Time:
Chase #1: Paid $1307.12 of $1925.04
Bank of America: Paid $1054 of $1600
Dillard's: Paid $953 of $1750
Medical (too much to list so I am going one at a time):
Amex #1: Paid $3975.50 of $3975.50 Paid in Full 3/09
Chase #2: Paid $4489.75 of $4489.75 Paid in Full 12/09
Macy's: Paid $337.24 of $337.24 Paid in Full 9/10
Lane Bryant: $300 of $300 Paid in Full 7/10
MRI Paid $1080 of $1080 Paid in Full 2/11
Amex #2: Paid $8286.17 of $8286.17 Paid in Full 7/11
Foot Surgery: Paid $1759 of $1759 Paid in Full 8/11
Furniture: Paid $2000 of $2000 Paid in Full 3/12
2012 Fling 319/2012
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had an HMO once. hated it. H A T E D it.... every single thing about it!! The pre-approvals themselves are enough to keep me from an HMO forever. Never mind that I want to see the doctor I WANT, WHEN I WANT and not have to ask permission like with the HMO plan we had.
My PPO might not be perfect, but it's my choice....hands down!!
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07-02-2010, 02:32 PM #15
I have aetna HMO with kelsey seybold as the provider.
ok, the way to play by their rules is
CALL THE NUMBER ON THE BACK OF THE CARD. be sweet as pie, and the kelsey seybold nurse managing your case will preapprove what you need right there on the phone. OR she will direct you to see the primary care doctor who will give the pre-approval.
example: i see my kelsey seybold dermatologist once a year for a skin check. I call the number on the back of the card, she pre-approves it, it's in their computer, and then i know the bill will be paid. i then make an appintment with the dermatologist.
ditto for ob/gyn
when i couldn't smell last year, i had to see the primary care first, then was pre-approved to a neurologist, and then an ear nose and throat, and the MRI lab.
you have to go to the emergency room. back to the rule. call the kelsey seybold number on the back of the card. Ask the nurse WHICH EMERGENCY ROOM WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO TO? they will direct you to the nearest, go to (hospital downtown) , or go to the urgent care clinic (gives address). now it's in the computer and the bill will be paid.
i have to see the super-specialist endocrinologist once a year for PCOS. i pay cash becuase she is not a provider.
it's easy to play by the rules. if you buck the system they will not pay.11% gross to retirement
10% takehome to tithe and offerings
emergency fund maintained at 3000(works for me)
credit card debt 7500
mortgage free
freedom accounts/sinking funds that ebb and flow
then live on the rest!
i am trying something new. LDS church advises savings or debt repayment should be the same as the tithe. 10% each.
"i create prosperity, abundance, and savings for me and my household"



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