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    Question Question about sinus irrigation

    How does sinus irrigation work?

    I have heard about Nettie pots and Saline nose drops.

    I tried it.

    Think I might have done it wrong or I'm plumbed wrong. LOL

    Last night I use Saline nose drops with the flow directions so a stream came out of the bottle.

    I tilted my head it went in my nose and right down the back of my throat. I could taste the salty water and choked on it.

    Did I do it wrong? or are my sinus nose wired?

    Snot never runs out of my nose and I generally get little when I blow. Been this way since I was a child. My mom always said my nose ran the wrong way.
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    I use saline spray every day, 3-4 times a day. Keeps the mucus membranes moist, which helps keep me from getting debilitating sinus infections.

    I hold one nostril closed, and spray gently in the other. It shouldn't be like a turbo shower, just a spray. Then do the other side. Sometimes I can taste/feel it.

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    lean your head forward. pour the saline in (not spray)

    tilt your head to the side, pour the saline in, tilt other way, pour the saline in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ladykemma2 View Post
    lean your head forward. pour the saline in (not spray)

    tilt your head to the side, pour the saline in, tilt other way, pour the saline in.
    I did tilt me head and pour in and it ran right down my throat. Maybe I need to lean forward more.

    Off to try and lean forward tilt to the side and pour.

    I'll report back
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    okay I leaned forward titled my head to the side poured it in the top nostril from the saltine bottle and the soft plate of my throat ballooned up but nothing came out even when I stood up. I'm not sure where it went so I blew my nose and some came out that nostril. Same thing happened on the other side. My ears keep popping now when I swallow or yawn..
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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    okay I leaned forward titled my head to the side poured it in the top nostril from the saltine bottle and the soft plate of my throat ballooned up but nothing came out even when I stood up. I'm not sure where it went so I blew my nose and some came out that nostril. Same thing happened on the other side. My ears keep popping now when I swallow or yawn..
    huh.

    ???

    this is going to be interesting.
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    You could have a deviated septum, or your sinuses could be so blocked that it won't flow from one side to the other. Also, it takes practice. The first couple times i did it, it didn't flow from one side to the other. I think it was a combination of blockage and not doing it right. You might have an issue, or you might just be doing it wrong. I'd be surprised if anyone did it right the first time. There are youtube videos that show you the position so you might want to check them out.

    I have a deviated septum. Can I comfortably and easily use a neti pot and how would I go about doing so?

    Many people with a deviated septum find that using a neti pot helps them. While it cannot straighten the septum, using a neti pot can wash out the nasal area so that the partially blocked nostril isn't further blocked by mucus and debris. Plus, if there is any swelling, then using a neti pot can help open up the passages by reducing the swelling. Salt draws fluid from tissues, so rinsing with salt water is a good strategy for drawing fluids from swollen tissues and helping them return to normal. Cleaning the area and reducing any swelling can really help open things up so that you can breathe better even though you'll still have a deviated septum.

    People who have a deviated septum and decide to try using a neti pot sometimes find it difficult to get the salt water to move into one nostril and out the other. If one nostril is completely blocked, that will stop the salt water from flowing. The salt water simply won't travel all the way over to exit the other nostril. Usually, however, the blockage is not complete, and eventually the salt water will flow after a few tries. Sometimes people with a deviated septum say that they can get the salt water to flow one direction, but not the other direction. If that is the case, go ahead and do it on the side that works, and continue to try on the other side. Usually the blocked side opens up after a few tries. Remember that it takes a few seconds for the salt water to wind its way through the nose, so give it some time when you try it and make subtle adjustments to your head position to find the position that works best for you.

    Also, after you use your neti pot, gently blow your nose to remove the remaining salt water and debris, then bend over from the waist and move your head around looking for a position that allows any trapped salt water to drain out.
    After you're done, bend over at the waist and let your head hang freely to where it's basically upside down. Hold that position for a minute or two and you'll feel it drain. It will dribble some more when you go upright again.

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    it goes down the back of my throat too
    i think i have malformed sinus's though '
    when i blow my nose ( which i rarely have to do even with sinusitis=- it runs down the back of my throat not out my nose ) -- anyway if i blow my nose or hold it and blow to clear my ears ..... air comes out my tear ducts and makes bubbles in my lower eye lid .
    very weird - i have had more than 1 Dr look at me like i was making it up until i showed them lol !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Momto5RN View Post
    it goes down the back of my throat too
    i think i have malformed sinus's though '
    when i blow my nose ( which i rarely have to do even with sinusitis=- it runs down the back of my throat not out my nose ) -- anyway if i blow my nose or hold it and blow to clear my ears ..... air comes out my tear ducts and makes bubbles in my lower eye lid .
    very weird - i have had more than 1 Dr look at me like i was making it up until i showed them lol !
    I have had air come out my eye lids before when I try to blow my nose. I didn't know that was strange.

    My daughter has snot come out her eyes. The first time it happened the pediatrician looked at me and asked if I was giving her a decongestant as that was snot. I just thought it was blocked tear ducts. I was wrong.

    My friend so is a doctor. She got called to the school nurse because her daughter had a bloody nose but the blood was coming out her eyes. She, my doctor friend didn't even act like this was strange let alone anything to worry about.
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    I think my ears popping is them draining cause shortly after I cough up salty tasting stuff. maybe that is where the salt water solution went.
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    imagine-

    your dr friend may be trying to not cause hysteria in her / his friends by acting as if it was normal and they also were probably aware of what caused the issue - the childs health status prior to it etc -it may be something that happens to them before so they are use to it
    but a nose bleed that causes blood to come from the eyes is definitelly not "normal" and the person should be seen by a dr if that happens.

    there is a valve in the tear ducts that is supposed to prevent nose stuff from reaching our eyes - it can be over ridden by alot of nose blowing etc though - but everytime someone blows their nose not even that hard - is not normal.
    but then again what is normal anymore lol .

    all i know is i have chronic sinus issues -frequent infections - cant do the rinse because it goes down my throat no matter how i stand or hold my head - my mom had the same issues so i am guessing something hereditary is there esp since we dont even live in the same state .

    so i assume some sort of malformation somewhere non functioning valve etc .

    my eye dr shows special concern about this fact because it could lead to more easily obtained eye infections - especially since i wear contacts .


    response by a specialist to a question a woman asked about what i said happens to me , because it was happening to her

    "There is a valve near the tear duct. If you blow very hard you can cause a malfunction in its flow and the valve can reverse its direction, that is tears usually flow out of the eye into the nasal passage thru this duct. In absence of tears when blowing very hard, air can regurgitate backwards which you are feeling.

    It is best not to practice this as it can lead to a permanent malfunction of this valve.

    Blow very very gently whenever required only."


    Ophthalmology & Optometry: tear duct, nasal passage, tear duct




    and to be honest i am a RN x 25+ years who is not a fan of most dr's , so i am a little biased - in fact ones laziness in doing a proper exam and diagnosis and just using common sense just caused one of my favorite 97 yo patients to have to have major surgery - that could have been avoided .

    i just dont anyone to be having bloody tears and think its normal and not get seen by someone - whether a friend medical professional or someone they pay - it should be looked at to have a problem ruled out even if it ends up there is no problem.

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    Yes would not want anyone to think blood in the eyes is normal my friend is a laid back doc and persOn and where I live it is believed that snot in childrens eye is not a big deal. Something to go to the doctor for and needs medicine but not an emergency sort Of thing. She also grew uP with same ped as my children went to that told me the thing about snot in childrens eyes

    So thank yOu for clarifying and pointing out. I think there things that worry moms put not doctors because they know how to handle things that we do not. My friends that have doctors as husbands always say their husbands are never worried when their kids are sick acting like it is normal and it drives them nuts
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    gosh, i hope you get it all worked out and get better.

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    Default blood came out of my sons eyes when he had a nose bleed...

    and i of course freaked... ran him to the er and the er doc said it was completely "Normal" i immediately asked the doctor how old he was and how many years he had been practicing....he of course gave me a speal...i then proceeded to ask for another doctor to come in and see my son and of course was given the same diagnosis...it is completely normal for it to happen.. I to this day do not believe them...

    Quote Originally Posted by Momto5RN View Post
    imagine-

    your dr friend may be trying to not cause hysteria in her / his friends by acting as if it was normal and they also were probably aware of what caused the issue - the childs health status prior to it etc -it may be something that happens to them before so they are use to it
    but a nose bleed that causes blood to come from the eyes is definitelly not "normal" and the person should be seen by a dr if that happens.

    there is a valve in the tear ducts that is supposed to prevent nose stuff from reaching our eyes - it can be over ridden by alot of nose blowing etc though - but everytime someone blows their nose not even that hard - is not normal.
    but then again what is normal anymore lol .

    all i know is i have chronic sinus issues -frequent infections - cant do the rinse because it goes down my throat no matter how i stand or hold my head - my mom had the same issues so i am guessing something hereditary is there esp since we dont even live in the same state .

    so i assume some sort of malformation somewhere non functioning valve etc .

    my eye dr shows special concern about this fact because it could lead to more easily obtained eye infections - especially since i wear contacts .


    response by a specialist to a question a woman asked about what i said happens to me , because it was happening to her

    "There is a valve near the tear duct. If you blow very hard you can cause a malfunction in its flow and the valve can reverse its direction, that is tears usually flow out of the eye into the nasal passage thru this duct. In absence of tears when blowing very hard, air can regurgitate backwards which you are feeling.

    It is best not to practice this as it can lead to a permanent malfunction of this valve.

    Blow very very gently whenever required only."


    Ophthalmology & Optometry: tear duct, nasal passage, tear duct




    and to be honest i am a RN x 25+ years who is not a fan of most dr's , so i am a little biased - in fact ones laziness in doing a proper exam and diagnosis and just using common sense just caused one of my favorite 97 yo patients to have to have major surgery - that could have been avoided .

    i just dont anyone to be having bloody tears and think its normal and not get seen by someone - whether a friend medical professional or someone they pay - it should be looked at to have a problem ruled out even if it ends up there is no problem.

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