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    Default Cancer fighting nutrients deadly when combined with chlorinated tap water

    This absolutely amazes me... I have seen this posted on several
    groups, and it just floors me... Unless I am mistaken, the tone of
    the article suggest that cancer fighting nutrients are really bad
    because they mix with chlorine to become these horrible mutations
    that have been, "tormenting the water treatment and chlorine
    industries for years."

    What else does one expect when you are using a deadly, cancer
    causing substance like chlorine!! Of course anything good, when
    contaminated by chlorine is going to wind up being bad.

    The nutritional communities don't need to adjust around this, we
    just need to stop using chlorine.

    Other comments?
    Misty L. Trepke
    http://www.searching-alternatives.com


    Cancer fighting nutrients become deadly when combined with
    chlorinated tap water

    Some of nature's most valuable and essential anti-cancer and
    anti-disease phytochemical nutrients which are commonly found in
    food have been discovered to form deadly cancer causing substances
    when consumed or combined with chlorinated tap water. This discovery
    includes familiar foods including soy, fruits, vegetables, tea, many
    health products, and even some vitamins. Research has proven that
    these essential nutrients are the exact same families of compounds,
    that even in infinitesimal amounts have been tormenting the water
    treatment and chlorine industries for years.

    Recently, a joint study was undertaken in Japan by research
    scientists at the National Institute of Health Sciences and Shizuoka
    Prefectural University. They determined that natural organic
    substances originating from foods, including fruits, soy, and green
    or black tea, react when tap water is chlorinated, forming dangerous
    cancer causing compounds. These deadly compounds have been named MX,
    which stands for "unknown mutagen", and are similar to the already
    well-known and more easily detected cancer causing THMs
    (trihalomethanes).

    The Japanese scientists specifically mentioned that their studies
    showed that MX is created by the reaction of chlorine with natural
    organic plant phytochemicals such as catechins, which are contained
    in tea, and flavonoids which are found in fruit. Since Japan has an
    extremely high consumption of tea, fruits, and soy products, it is
    easy to see how high amounts of residues from these foods would end
    up in their wastewater treatment and water recycling systems.

    Earlier studies by scientists in Finland in 1997 determined that MX
    is 170 times more deadly than other known toxic byproducts of
    chlorination, and was shown in laboratory studies to damage the
    thyroid gland as well as cause cancerous tumors.

    THMs are known to be created by the reaction of chlorine with humic
    and fulvic acids, which are the final breakdown products of
    vegetation, including decayed leaves and organic matter. Humic
    substances are the same as soil humus, of which the fulvic fraction
    is water soluble and readily transported into streams and waterways,
    as well as utilized nutritionally by plants.

    Very recent scientific discoveries have identified and clarified the
    composition of fulvic and humic acids as containing a significant
    amount of nutritional phytochemical groups including hormones,
    sterols, fatty acids, polyphenols, and ketones, which subgroups
    include but are not limited to: flavins, flavonoids, flavones,
    tannins, catechins, quinones, isoflavones, tocopherols, etc.

    These compounds are some of the most valuable and promising anti-
    cancer nutrients found in our foods and health supplements. Coenzyme
    Q10 is a quinone, vitamin B-2 is a flavin, vitamin E is a
    tocopherol, citrus bioflavonoids including hesperidin, quercetin,
    and rutin are all flavonoids, green tea contains catechins, phenols,
    tannins, and isoflavones. Potentially all of these substances, and
    many more, are implicated by chlorination.

    Amazingly, is has been discovered that these phytochemicals remain
    intact, concentrated, and intricately combined within humic
    substances; which are valuable remnants of nature's protective
    substances contained within fruits, flowers, pollen, nuts and seeds,
    as well as vegetative parts including roots stems, bark, and
    leaves. Even the plant nucleic acids, RNA and DNA remain intact.

    To comply with EPA rulings, water treatment plants have had to
    develop special techniques to scrub the seemingly dubious organic
    residues from water prior to treatment with chlorine. There is
    nothing wrong with the organic substances themselves, it is chlorine
    that is at fault for turning them into the deadly THM and MX cancer
    cocktail. Reality is that the organic substances have been shown to
    be highly beneficial combined with pure drinking water in trace
    amounts.

    The bottom line is this: when water treatment facilities remove these
    substances, they are throwing the precious baby out with the bath
    water, and the remnants that remain are turned into cancer causing
    agents by chlorination. To make things worse, it is certain that the
    fresh plant foods we eat similarly react with the chlorinated tap
    water we drink with our meals, creating toxins. This means that
    fresh fruits and vegetables, green salads, green tea, black tea,
    herb teas, soy products, vitamin pills and various health
    supplements, and even some pharmaceutical drugs, all can be
    implicated in combination with chlorinated water.

    The deadly cancer causing agents which are produced are extremely
    toxic in infinitesimal amounts, so small and obscure that they are
    extremely difficult to detect. Very little chlorine is required.
    When the concentrations of phytochemicals are high, such as in
    concentrated health supplements, or even fruits and vegetables
    coming from more fertile soils, the deadly combination with
    chlorination intensifies.

    It has been known by the water treatment and chemical industries for
    many years that chlorine reacts negatively with natural organic
    compounds. These industries call these compounds DBPs (disinfection
    by-products) which are known to cause cancer in populations whose
    drinking water contains them. THM the most commonly known DBP, is
    known to cause a high incidence of bladder cancer and also to cause
    spontaneous abortion of fetuses.

    The Environmental Protection Agency has continually tightened their
    restrictions on THMs in drinking water, and even tighter
    restrictions are just around the bend. Yet it is interesting to note
    that the many government agencies and chlorine industries have
    conveniently neglected to take a serious look at food, health
    supplement, and pharmaceutical drug consumption preparation, and
    production relating to use of chlorinated tap water.

    There is good reason for the public to seriously examine and
    question this entire issue. Many years ago laws were passed making
    chlorination of water mandatory. Now, the chlorine industry and
    government agencies must continue their existing policies, because
    if sudden or drastic changes are made, the legal liabilities would
    be staggering. Certainly some government or industry personnel have
    known or theorized about these problems and have been covering them
    up for many years. However, if anyone were to admit to it, the
    consequences could be disastrous. This predicament could make the
    tobacco industry scandal seem insignificant in comparison.

    Another area needing thorough scrutiny relates to pharmaceutical
    drug safety studies normally performed on animals in the laboratory.
    It would be reasonable to surmise that good laboratory practices and
    procedures would require that such studies be performed using highly
    purified drinking water for animals. It would be reasonable to
    believe that drug companies would not take the chance of
    jeopardizing clinical studies using chlorinated tap water. Of course
    chlorinated tap water is a common denominator within the human
    environment. Educating people to the dangers of chlorine would be
    admitting to knowledge of the problem, which could invalidate past
    studies and certainly raise serious legal problems.

    This whole chlorine issue should come as no real surprise to any
    biochemist. During the last century, chlorine has been combined with
    many other normally safe organic substances to form some of the most
    powerful deadly toxins known, such as dioxin, DDT, PCBs, etc. The
    bottom line is that the real culprit is chlorine, not the substances
    with which it reacts.

    Although chlorine has essentially eliminated the risks of waterborne
    diseases such as typhoid fever, cholera and dysentery, there are many
    pathogens that are not controlled by chlorine. Other and better
    methods of water treatment exist. Many alternatives are already used
    throughout the world. Ever tightening EPA regulations have forced
    the water supply industry in the USA to look into alternative
    methods for disinfecting water.

    For years, environmentalists have battled the water treatment
    industry and large chemical companies in an effort to ban the use of
    chlorine in drinking water. This ongoing battle has been a big
    source of revenue for both sides. As word of the problem spreads to
    the general public, something might actually be done about it.

    As this message spreads, it will no doubt shake the very foundations
    of the chlorine and water treatment industries, let alone the
    government agencies that are implicated along with them. There
    certainly should be cause for serious alarm within the nutritional
    supplement and food industries, as well as those segments of the
    medical industry that might awaken to the dilemma.

    This message is of utmost importance to the general public, because
    chlorine will one day, in the near future, be exposed as a major
    cause and contributor to cancer and degenerative disease. Chlorine
    will also be found to be responsible for damaging the body's immune
    and hormonal systems by mutating the food-based plant estrogens and
    phytochemicals that support those systems. A healthy immune system
    should be your first and best line of defense against waterborne
    disease.

    Recer, P; Water chlorine byproduct may be cancer risk; June 18, 1997;
    Associated Press

    Christman, RF; Kronberg, K; Singh, R; Ball, LM; Johnson, DJ; Report
    259: Identification of Mutagenic By-products from Aquatic Humic
    Chlorination; North Carolina State University

    Rhomberg, L Ph.D.; Risk In Perspective: Are Chemicals In the
    Environment Disrupting Hormonal Control Of Growth and Development?
    April 1, 1996; Harvard Center for Risk Analysis

    Japanese data related to MX and the Shizuoka Prefectural University
    has been extracted from various abstracts published by the American
    Water Works Association (AWWA), and the National Institute of Health
    (NIH).

    Plant phytochemicals and nutrient groups can be determined from
    information within the Organic Chemical Tables; Chemical Abstracts
    Service (CAS), a division of the American Chemical Society.


    For six years, the professionals at the EPA have been telling the
    world that fluoride is killing people. Their site:
    http://www.fluoridealert.org/hp-epa.htm

    WHY does fluoridation continue? See:
    http://www.worldnewsstand.net/2002/article/10-12.htm
    also: www.trufax.org

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    This is one area I've been wanting to research more. We have to use chlorine in our water softener/purification system for our well water. Without the system, and without the chlorine, the water is unbearable in taste(for brushing your teeth - it's still not what we consider 'drinkable') and smell (the water is high in iron and sulfur). We are buying bottled water now because the house never had a water line running to the refrigerator for a water dispenser there. Dh will be doing that as part of our kitchen remodel and using a fabulous filter (a brand we've used for years and the one he considers the best on the market since that's part of his line of work). I do need to find out about the chlorine and filtration issue though. Seems like I had a booklet here somewhere about a shower head that would remove the chlorine from the water too or something like that. I need to find that as well.

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