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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    So I was reading though the edible tree link.

    I read the tree sap one and thought, why would anyone eat that? Then I immediately thought about maple syrup it comes from trees and is in high demand.

    I wonder if the cellous powder ( tree pulp) thing is similar. It seems bad because it does sets off our "ewww" factor. It is odd and unfamiliar to us.

    Would the same reaction happen if someone realized that dandelion greens had been in fancy bagged salad they bought at the store?

    Just some random thoughts going through my mind
    Birch syrup is equally amazing, I prefer it to maple syrup. And dandelions were introduced to North America from Europe for use as salad greens. The yellow flowers also make a pretty good wine. People need to go back to the days when "food" didn't come from the grocery store, which, in many cases, is just a storefront for a lab somewhere. My opinion.

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    I have some Alaskan Birch Syrup and it is very good. I know I would have preferred it growing up as I liked Birch Beer much more back then.... oh, I could add it to some club soda, couldn't I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    So I was reading though the edible tree link.

    I read the tree sap one and thought, why would anyone eat that? Then I immediately thought about maple syrup it comes from trees and is in high demand.

    I wonder if the cellous powder ( tree pulp) thing is similar. It seems bad because it does sets off our "ewww" factor. It is odd and unfamiliar to us.

    Would the same reaction happen if someone realized that dandelion greens had been in fancy bagged salad they bought at the store?

    Just some random thoughts going through my mind
    ~I don't feel "Eww" so much as wood pulp isn't nutritious. We chide our kids about nibbling on books, pencils and notebook paper don't we?
    It's deceptive to say "whole grain wheat bread" when there is wood in it. The consumer is well aware of the health benefits of whole wheat and that's what we think we're getting. If there were similar health benefits to wood pulp, don't you think health organizations would be touting its benefits by now?
    Just because something is edible doesn't mean I want it hidden in my pop-tarts under an umbrella name.
    What if manufacturers had a surplus of cat food and decided to make it a filler in canned soup under another name? Would that be right?
    A lot of my problem with ingredients like this is that the manufacturers don't have to explain to the public what those long named ingredients represent and how they were derived. Which makes it exceedingly hard for anyone who is on a special diet to avoid ingredients that cause reactions.
    The manufacturers are obeying the letter of the law and not the spirit of it.
    I'm actually surprised a major manufacturer hasn't stood up and promised to use only real, identifiable ingredients regardless of the higher cost than their competitors. Being an honest food manufacturer who is truly interested in the well being of consumers, I think, would be very welcome these days.
    I'd pay more to be sure of what I was getting in my food.
    But it'll probably take a few major lawsuits over people who die because of a mystery ingredient before any changes are made. ~
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    Quote Originally Posted by imagine View Post
    Shredded cheese

    Just checked my bag of shredded cheese. Yep. Colby cheese and potato starch and powdered cellulose ( to prevent caking)

    Now I know how they get it not to stick together.

    Any way one could at home pre shredded a block of cheese and have it ready for quick use without it sticking all together?
    Imagine; You can pre shred at home and keep it (semi) from clumping together by lightly tossing it with cornstartch. It won't be as clump free as store bought, but it won't have sawdust in it either

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    Quote Originally Posted by low-1 View Post
    Birch syrup is equally amazing, I prefer it to maple syrup. And dandelions were introduced to North America from Europe for use as salad greens. The yellow flowers also make a pretty good wine. People need to go back to the days when "food" didn't come from the grocery store, which, in many cases, is just a storefront for a lab somewhere. My opinion.
    There was something on redit, maybe.

    Quote "Hunter shouldn't kill animals, they should get their food at the store so no animals get hurt'

    hubby and I are definitely hoping that was a joke and someone didn't believe that. But there might be people that are so removed from where their food comes from that they might believe no animals were hurt for the hamburger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuisance26 View Post
    ~I don't feel "Eww" so much as wood pulp isn't nutritious. We chide our kids about nibbling on books, pencils and notebook paper don't we?
    It's deceptive to say "whole grain wheat bread" when there is wood in it. The consumer is well aware of the health benefits of whole wheat and that's what we think we're getting. If there were similar health benefits to wood pulp, don't you think health organizations would be touting its benefits by now?
    Just because something is edible doesn't mean I want it hidden in my pop-tarts under an umbrella name.
    What if manufacturers had a surplus of cat food and decided to make it a filler in canned soup under another name? Would that be right?
    A lot of my problem with ingredients like this is that the manufacturers don't have to explain to the public what those long named ingredients represent and how they were derived. Which makes it exceedingly hard for anyone who is on a special diet to avoid ingredients that cause reactions.
    The manufacturers are obeying the letter of the law and not the spirit of it.
    I'm actually surprised a major manufacturer hasn't stood up and promised to use only real, identifiable ingredients regardless of the higher cost than their competitors. Being an honest food manufacturer who is truly interested in the well being of consumers, I think, would be very welcome these days.
    I'd pay more to be sure of what I was getting in my food.
    But it'll probably take a few major lawsuits over people who die because of a mystery ingredient before any changes are made. ~
    As an allergic person I am all for detailed listings. Would love to find out what it is some but not Italian food that makes me have to carry an epi pen so i don't die if i accidentally come across it.

    I think the more detailed list may come in the future they are slowly changing that way bit by bit.

    I suspect that cellous has been in food for ages and everyone just said "oh that is plant stuff" and moved on.

    In the science article of 1934 it was suggested it would be a help to the "food problem" I'm thinking maybe there was a eww factor no one like the idea of dipping their newspaper in coffee like toast lol or any thing even similar. So they felt they had to call it something different like we call broccoli. trees or spinach, leaves so it is more palatable to our children.
    They might have also felt they had to hide it much like moms suggest pureeing veggies sneaking them int o other foods to get them down picky children.

    Maybe someday society will go up and we won't be treated like children.

    Just some more random thoughts
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    Am allergic to many foods and the list seems to be getting larger. Good to know that it is assumed that wood is ok to eat. The same people said hydrogenated oils were good for us also. Will keep on making my own food.

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