Lost Season 5--Running Commentary--***MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS***

**tbs727** · 02-05-2009, 08:18 PM

She didn't die, but she and Claire were in a bad car wreck together. I think this was in season one. She doesn't know about Aaron's existence. I think it's because she was in a coma during Claire's pregnancy and Claire had decided to give the baby up so mom never knew about it.

It would seem that her visitation from the lawyer (Ben's lawyer) which Kate thought was about Aaron was actually about a lawsuit that she has against Oceanic. It's just the product of the writers keeping us on the edge of our seats and not actually telling us who is after Aaron. Ben took credit for it last night, but I'm not believing it. Everything he says is a lie. I think it's Sun. Just a hunch.

**tbs727** · 02-11-2009, 12:41 PM

Lost is back on tonight. YAY!!!

**TexasPeanut** · 02-11-2009, 01:20 PM

Woohoo!

Bring on the Losties!

**Michelle** · 02-11-2009, 01:27 PM

:woohoo: I love Wednesday nights!

**elphie** · 02-12-2009, 01:05 AM

okay, let's see...

-Daniel is not Charlotte's father but they do have an encounter on the island- in her past, his future

-the wheel was off it's axis... that's why the island has been jumping around... and John was supposed to turn it the first time, not Ben... but if he got it back on it's axis then they shouldn't be jumping anymore so when is Daniel gonna meet little Charlotte? and how are the 6 gonna get back to the island in the right time?

-the "sickness" was something that happened after an encounter with smokey

-Sawyer was so happy to see Jin... that was so sweet

-Sun's daughter is with her mother... I still don't understand why she only had a picture from when she was a baby... has she been gone that long, hunting down Widmore and then Ben?

that's all I've got, it wasn't really a very exciting episode

**Michelle** · 02-12-2009, 08:18 AM

I thought it was a really good episode. Not as good as last week's but still better than the week before. My 2

of course.

We found out why Danielle killed her companions. I am confused about her boyfriend/dh that she killed. I thought Ben was the father of her dd Alex? The timing would make it seem that she was pregnant with Alex in that episode, but is it possible that she was pregnant with a different baby and not Alex?

I don't like that John had to die

And I do like how the writers have brought out the softer side of Sawyer--like when he was upset that he couldn't save John when they time traveled in the middle of John going down the well, and Sawyer started to dig him out.

I loved how happy Sawyer was to see Jin.

So how *did* Jin escape the ship explosion?

**thefrug** · 02-12-2009, 08:38 AM

Ben and the Others stole Alex from Danielle when she was an infant. Ben raised her as his daughter.

**TexasPeanut** · 02-12-2009, 10:05 AM

My thoughts,

Favorite part of last nights episode....Jin and Sawyer's reunion, that was awesome.

I'm still thinking that Juliette is very good with Sawyer, or James as she calls him.

Kate is really starting to get on my nerves.

I think there is a reason Sun and Jin's kid isn't with Sun (in the writers minds anyway), they all have to go back, the ones that left but technically that child wasn't part of the island with them...except being conceived there. So maybe that child isn't supposed to go back.

I don't think Locke is officially "dead".

The smoke monster guards the temple? Ben once told the Others to go to the temple and wait for him there. How does that fit into things.

Desmond! I had forgotten when he was told Faraday's mom was in L.A., but I remember thinking then "gee I wonder if he will run into everyone and that fits with having to get everyone back to the island?"

Is there really a good/evil purgatory type of thing going on? It's driving me crazy wondering what's really going on. Having faith, making amends with the past (each character seems to have done that at some point), healing, sacrificing oneself to save others, making the decision to follow the good or the evil, do you choose to believe and go with the Ben or not believe and lose everyone? Having to do bad things to protect someone. The whole Jacob/Christian thing. The black smoke monster, that's evil. There always seems to be a light/dark side to everything that keeps happening.

I'm going to get a headache and a nosebleed soon.

....... It's almost starting to seem like I'm watching a Left Behind series story being acted out.

**tbs727** · 02-12-2009, 10:28 AM

I LOVED the episode. Loved. It. Did anyone else think it was particularly gorey for Lost? The whole arm thing and Locke's leg. Ew. I have to admit, I liked it.

A long time ago, the creators stated that the island doesn't have anything to do with purgatory, but there do seem to be a lot of references.

The whole encounter with smokey really has me baffled. It seems like everyone who survives an encounter with it becomes one of the protected. Like a salvation thing.

We know now that Mrs. (Eloise) Hawking is Faraday's mother. She is also likely the young woman who walked him to the bomb at gun (Ellie) point. Since Mr. Widmore knows Faraday and was funding his research, it seems there is a good possibility Widmore is Faraday's father.

I have a hunch that Lepedis will be the fella to get them back to the island.

I guess moving the big wheel won't keep them from forcefully skipping through time, but perhaps now that the wheel isn't broken, they will be able to choose where they travel through time?

This show is like a really good puzzle.

**Jellybeanz** · 02-16-2009, 07:37 PM

I LOVED this episode too. tbs, that is an interesting theory about Sun being the one behind getting Aaron... never considered that, but Sun sure does seem to be acting a lot differently anyway, more.. calculating and mysterious.

Anyway.. I love Locke and they better bring him back to life LOL

And Texas Peanut .. Kate is really starting to get on my nerves too. But she kinda always did for some reason, even though I thought her and Sawyer had this great chemistry and I want Sawyer to get what he wants.. well... cuz.. he's HOT LOL Seriously, he is turning into quite the sweetie isn't he? The softer side is coming out.

I'm thrilled Jin is alive, I always loved his character .

I also MISS Chaw-ley ;-) .. Gosh I know someone had to sacrifice, but dang... he was so into Claire I hated to see it end like that.

Okay.. I'm seriously addicted to this show. These characters are like people to me. Is there a Lost addiction group to join? LOL

I'm already worrying about the last season and thinking how I'm going to miss seeing them every week. :-(

**Sassyclass** · 02-18-2009, 10:02 PM

Hmmm, lots of Biblical references this episode. How fitting John will come back to life, flight 316...John 3:16. Ben gave a speech about doubting Thomas, they had to go to a church to find out how to get back to the island. I can't imagine this show being over next year.

Cat

**elphie** · 02-19-2009, 01:08 AM

yep, I noticed the biblical theme... it goes along with the polarity between John and Jack and the faith/science debate and the fact that Jack is now willing to just have faith.

Kind of cool that they started with Jack's eye and him in the jungle...

Where is everyone else?
How did they get out of the plane?
What the heck happened to Aaron?
What time did they land in if Jin is driving a shiny Dharma van?
Why did Ben say his mother taught him to read if his mother died in childbirth?
Why is Sayid in handcuffs and did Ben arrange to have him arrested to make sure he got on the plane?
How did Hurley hear about the plane and why did he choose to go?
Who was that guy who spoke to Jack in the airport and then they showed him again on the plane?

It is kind of cool to know that they were trying to recreate original conditions, hence needing a dead body, a fugitive finally being caught, Sun without her baby, even the pilot who wasn't there the first time but should have been... makes me wonder if Aaron is back in coach somewhere? Or maybe they have a pregnant person somewhere?

So many questions... this is what happens when I complain that last week just tied up loose ends I already kind of had figured out. They laugh and say "Oh yeah, you think you've know it all, well let's see about that!"

**tbs727** · 02-19-2009, 11:50 AM

Elphie, GREAT observations! I didn't even think about the possibility of Sayid being a fugitive (to recreate the original situation) or Ben being the one responsible for getting him arrested.

To add a few other questions:
What happened to Ben to get him so badly beaten?
Why was Lepedis on the flight and was Ben responsible for getting him there?
Could Kate be pregnant? (clearly she can...

In response to the biblical aspect, I want to add that there had to be a sacrifice, Locke.

For the first time that I can remember, they presented and answered a question in the same episode. At the beginning we see Jack with a piece of paper that says "I wish" at the end we find out that it is Locke's suicide letter.

I think next week is going to be really interested, and possibly quite gripping as we find out what happens to Locke after leaving the island.

**TexasPeanut** · 02-19-2009, 12:23 PM

I too picked up on the John 3:16, the church, the sacrifice, etc. I've been noticing the biblical thing going on for awhile with the whole light/dark good/evil thing going on.

Possible answers to some questions -
Where is everyone else?
I think the Losties are in a time jump, hence the early version of the hippy mobile. As far as the others on the plane, I think they kept on their journey like nothing happened (Ben did say who cares? when asked about them, maybe he knows from leaving the island and coming back before nothing changes for those people just those going to the island through the windows) I have no clue yet as to where the other Losties coming back on the plane are.

How did they get out of the plane?
White light, time jump! It was their window, so maybe they just time jumped off the plane back onto the island.

What the heck happened to Aaron?
Maybe Kate gave him to Claire's mom? Or maybe Sawyers baby momma since she's known her. Who knows, but good question.

What time did they land in if Jin is driving a shiny Dharma van?
This has me more curious than anything. What the heck is Jin doing in a brand new Dharma jumpsuit? Maybe they time jumped to when Dharma first arrived on the island and they are blending in with the Dharma people. Or Maybe Jin is Dharma from many years ago. With this show I am starting to think anything is possible.

Why did Ben say his mother taught him to read if his mother died in childbirth?
I caught that as well! It was my favorite line in the show though. But it does seem strange that he said that. Maybe a writer screwed up or maybe things are not as they once seemed?

Why is Sayid in handcuffs and did Ben arrange to have him arrested to make sure he got on the plane?
I think so, as much as the original has to be recreated, Kate was in hand cuffs with a Marshall so Sayid is taking that place. Why he happened to be placed on a flight to Guam is anybody's guess.

How did Hurley hear about the plane and why did he choose to go?
I'm guessing Chaw-ley. He always talked to him and Chaw-ley (I can't help myself) once told him he wasn't dead. I think that's why he had the guitar, to have something of Chaw-ley's on board.

Who was that guy who spoke to Jack in the airport and then they showed him again on the plane?
I wonder who that guy is as well. He'll either be a pivotal, mind turning, game changing character or an extra that will soon find the fate and way of the other extras.

What happened to Ben to get him so badly beaten?
My first guess, he went to settle the score with Widmore like he told him he would do. He went after Penny and got his butt beat by Desmond.

Why was Lepedis on the flight and was Ben responsible for getting him there?
Lepedis was supposed to be the pilot on the original flight that day, maybe fate is lining things up as well?

Could Kate be pregnant? (clearly she can.
Hmm I hadn't thought of that, she might be. Maybe she's taking Claire's spot of bringing the baby on board.

It was a great episode, but I can't wait to just get on with it. I want to see a Sun and Jin reunion along with finding out if Locke will stay dead or not. Some more Sawyer and Richard would be nice as well. I need answers to questions! I'm refraining from checking serious spoiler sites for my answers though. I've invested years into this show now, I'm going to see it to the end and follow it on it's journey. I just hope it doesn't disappoint the viewers in the end.

**elphie** · 02-19-2009, 01:00 PM

very intriguing observations everyone... I guess we know that the rest of this season's episodes will be filling in the blanks of how everyone ended up on that plane... I do think Kate could be pregnant... and I'm thinking Ben's beating had something to do with getting Hurley and Sayid on the plane, or maybe with taking Aaron... Kate was really shaken and made Jack promise never to bring it up again so I'm really anxious to see what happened there.

Good episode... counting down till next week... I bet we get to see Walt because Locke went to visit him (remember he told Hurley Jeremy Bentham had been to see him?).