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    Default Unbelieveable Tsunami pictures and articles

    Unbelievable Tsunami Pictures Give Clearer Picture

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    http://coreykoberg.com/Tsunami/


    No warning given: See below two article references:

    http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=518


    12/28/2004
    Swedish paper reports tsunami warning halted out of
    concern for tourist industry

    Tsunami warning halted ‘for tourist industry’

    This from the Swedish paper Expressen. Translation by
    RAW STORY excerpted here.

    Just minutes after the earthquake in the Indian
    Ocean on Sunday morning, Thailand’s foremost
    meteorological experts were sitting together in a
    crisis meeting. But they decided not to warn about the
    tsunami “out of courtesy to the tourist industry,”
    writes the Thailand daily newspaper The Nation.

    The experts got the news around 8:00 am on Sunday
    morning local time. An hour later, the first massive
    wave struck. But the experts started to discuss the
    economic impacts when they discussed if a tsunami
    warning should be issued.

    The primary argument against such a warning was
    that there had not been any floods in 300 years. Also,
    the experts believed the Indonesian island Sumatra
    would be a “cushion” for the southern coast of
    Thailand. The experts also had bad information; they
    thought the tremor was 8.1. A similar earthquake
    occurred in the same area in 2002 with no flooding at
    all.

    One expert The Nation spoke with also noted that
    the department had only four earthquake experts among
    their
    900-strong meteorological department. A second
    told The Nation that a tsunami warning was discussed
    but that because of the risk, they opted not to issue
    a warning.

    “We finally decided not to do anything because the
    tourist season was in full swing,” the source said.
    “The hotels were 100 percent booked. What if we issued
    a warning, which would have led to an evacuation, and
    nothing had happened. What would be the outcome? The
    tourist industry would be immediately hurt. Our
    department would not be able to endure a lawsuit.”

    This story was first noted and originally translated
    at Democratic Underground.
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    1.

    I have been holding my breath expecting to hear
    something like this as we live in a society that
    values money above human lives.

    I’m sick over the loss of life, and disgusted
    and angry over the GREED in this world!!!

    Comment by Vonnie Holmes — 12/28/2004 @ 6:44 pm
    2.

    So when did you learn to speak Swedish?

    Editor’s Note: The translation was compiled from
    another translation with additional sections
    translated with help of online translator services and
    Swedish-English dictionaries. Feel free to contact us
    if any sections are inexact. We’re confident the story
    itself is accurate, as it was referenced in short form
    in a Washington Post article. We’re also trying to get
    translation of the original Thai Nation piece.

    Comment by flou — 12/28/2004 @ 7:26 pm
    3.

    Unbelievable. The greed-heads were worried about
    a lawsuit. Now there are untold numbers of people who
    have lost their lives. Shame…

    Comment by Pete — 12/28/2004 @ 7:37 pm
    4.

    (Not in ANY way making light of this)…But
    reading this, I kept hearing the voice of the Mayor in
    “Jaws” in my head..can’t scare the tourists, after
    all. Their $$ is more important than their safety.

    My chests feels very heavy. It makes me
    heartsick.

    Comment by rhyfeddu — 12/28/2004 @ 9:12 pm
    5.

    imperfect information + an aversion to false
    warnings and unnecessary panic does not equate valuing
    human lives below money.

    Comment by d_lete — 12/28/2004 @ 9:14 pm
    The primary argument against such a warning was
    that there had not been any floods in 300 years. Also,
    the experts believed the Indonesian island Sumatra
    would be a “cushion” for the southern coast of
    Thailand.

    The experts also had bad information; they
    thought the tremor was 8.1. the department had only
    four earthquake experts among their 900-strong
    meteorological department.

    “We finally decided not to do anything because
    the tourist season was in full swing,” the source
    said. “The hotels were 100 percent booked. What if we
    issued a warning, which would have led to an
    evacuation, and nothing had happened. What would be
    the outcome? The tourist industry would be immediately
    hurt. Our department would not be able to endure a
    lawsuit.”

    LAME, LAZY, STUPID, GREEDY!!!!!!!!!!

    Those fools WILL have a lawsuit now!!!

    Comment by phantomstarchild001 — 12/28/2004 @
    10:00 pm
    Typical.

    Comment by ~A! — 12/28/2004 @ 10:05 pm
    Let’s see if I have this right.

    The primary argument against such a warning was
    that there had not been any floods in 300 years.

    So what? That made it right for them to stick
    their heads in the sand and their butts in the air??

    Also, the experts believed the Indonesian island
    Sumatra would be a “cushion” for the southern coast of
    Thailand. The experts also had bad information; they
    thought the tremor was 8.1.

    Those numbskulls need to research the effects of
    an 8.1 tremor.
    stupid idiots!!

    One expert The Nation spoke with also noted that
    the department had only four earthquake experts among
    their
    900-strong meteorological department.

    piss poor planning!!!

    We finally decided not to do anything because
    the tourist season was in full swing,” the source
    said.

    Hello? Hello? Hello? They were worried about a
    lawsuit of a “hurt” tourist industry? Worried about
    the loss of their almighty dollar is what it
    translates to me. Those dumb ass’s won’t have to worry
    about a “possible” lawsuit now. HA! HA! HA! They will
    HAVE one or more!!

    Comment by carol brown — 12/28/2004 @ 10:14 pm

    “What if we issued a warning, which would have
    led to an evacuation, and nothing had happened. What
    would be the outcome?”

    Well, we sure know what the outcome is when you
    DON’T issue a warning.

    I don’t know if this is true, or not, but if it
    is…what a disgrace. What a disgrace we have become.
    Unbelievable.

    Comment by ForCryingOutLoud — 12/28/2004 @ 10:45
    pm

    .
    Article 2:

    http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO412C.html

    The URL of this article is:
    http://globalresearch.ca/articles/412A.html

    Foreknowledge of A Natural Disaster
    Washington was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was
    building up in the Indian Ocean

    Michel Chossudovsky | December 29 2004

    The US Military and the State Department were given
    advanced warning. America's Navy base on the island of
    Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean was notified.

    Why were fishermen in India, Sri Lanka and Thailand
    not provided with the same warnings as the US Navy and
    the US State Department?

    Why did the US State Department remain mum on the
    existence of an impending catastrophe?

    With a modern communications system, why did the
    information not get out? By email, telephone, fax,
    satellite TV... ?

    It could have saved the lives of more than 80,000
    people. And the death toll is rising.

    The earthquake was a Magnitude 9.0 on the Richter
    scale, among the highest in recorded history. US
    authorities had initially recorded 8.0 on the Richter
    scale.

    As confirmed by several reports, US scientists in
    Hawaii, had advanced knowledge regarding an impending
    catastrophe, but failed to contact their Asian
    counterparts.

    Charles McCreery of the Pacific Warning Center in
    Hawaii confirmed that his team tried desperately to
    get in touch with his counterparts in Asia. According
    to McCreery, director of the National Oceanic and
    Atmospheric Administration's center in Honolulu, the
    team did its utmost to contact the countries. (The
    NOAA in Hawaii's Report at
    http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2004/s2357.htm ).

    His team contacted the US State Department, which
    apparently contacted the Asian governments. The Indian
    government confirms that no such warning was received.
    (The Hindu, 27 Dec 2004)

    Nine (9.0) on the Richter scale: The Director of the
    Hawaii Warning Center stated that "they did not know"
    that the earthquake would generate a deadly tidal wave
    until it had hit Sri Lanka, more than one and a half
    hours later, at 2.30 GMT. (see Timeline below)

    "Not until the deadly wave hit Sri Lanka and the
    scientists in Honolulu saw news reports of the damage
    there did they recognize what was happening... 'Then
    we knew there was something moving across the Indian
    Ocean,' said Charles McCreery. (quoted in the NYT, 28
    Dec 2004 ).

    This statement is at odds with the Timeline of the
    tidal wave disaster. Thailand was hit almost an hour
    before Sri Lanka and the news reports were already
    out. Surely, these reports out of Thailand were known
    to the scientists in Hawaii, not to mention the office
    of Sec. Colin Powell, well before the tidal wave
    reached Sri Lanka.

    ''We wanted to try to do something, but without a plan
    in place then, it was not an effective way to issue a
    warning, or to have it acted upon,'' Dr. McCreery
    said. ''There would have still been some time -- not a
    lot of time, but some time -- if there was something
    that could be done in Madagascar, or on the coast of
    Africa.''

    The above statement is also inconsistent.

    The tidal wave reached the East African coastline
    several hours after it reached The Maldives islands.
    According to news reports, Male, the capital of the
    Maldives was hit three hours after the earthquake, at
    approximately 4.00 GMT. By that time everybody around
    the World knew.

    It is worth noting that the US Navy was fully aware of
    the deadly tidal wave, because the Navy was on the
    Pacific Warning Center's list of contacts. Moreover,
    America's strategic Naval base on the island of Diego
    Garcia had also been notified. Although directly in
    the path of the tidal wave (see animated chart below),
    the Diego Garcia military base reported "no damage".

    "One of the few places in the Indian Ocean that got
    the message of the quake was Diego Garcia, a speck of
    an island with a United States Navy base, because the
    Pacific warning center's contact list includes the
    Navy. Finding the appropriate people in Sri Lanka or
    India was harder." (NYT, 28 Dec 2004, emphasis added)

    Now how hard is it to pick up the phone and call Sri
    Lanka?

    According to Charles McCreery, director of the Pacific
    Tsunami Warning Center.

    "We don't have contacts in our address book for
    anybody in that part of the world."

    Only after the first waves hit Sri Lanka did workers
    at National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's
    Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre [PTWC] and others in
    Hawaii start making phone calls to US diplomats in
    Madagascar and Mauritius in an attempt to head off
    further disaster.

    "We didn't have a contact in place where you could
    just pick up the phone," Dolores Clark, spokeswoman
    for the International Tsunami Information Centre in
    Hawaii said. "We were starting from scratch."

    These statement on the surface are inconsistent, since
    several Indian Ocean Asian countries are in fact
    members of the Tsunami Warning System.

    There are 26 member countries of the International
    Coordination Group for the Tsunami Warning System ,
    including Thailand, Singapore and Indonesia. All these
    countries would normally be in the address book of the
    PTWC, which works in close coordination with its
    sister organization the ICGTWS , which has its offices
    in Honolulu at the headquarters of the National
    Weather Service Pacific Region Headquarters in
    downtown Honolulu.

    The mandate of the ICGTWS is to "assist member states
    in establishing national warning systems, and makes
    information available on current technologies for
    tsunami warning systems."

    Australia and Indonesia were notified. The US Congress
    is to investigate why the US government did not notify
    all the Indian Ocean nations in the affected area:
    "Only two countries in the affected region, Indonesia
    and Australia, received the warning"

    "Although Thailand belongs to the international
    tsunami-warning network, its west coast does not have
    the system's wave sensors mounted on ocean buoys.

    The northern tip of the earthquake fault is located
    near the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, and tsunamis
    appear to have rushed eastward toward the Thai resort
    of Phuket.

    "They had no tidal gauges and they had no warning,"
    said Waverly Person, a geophysicist at the National
    Earthquake Information Centre in Golden, Colorado,
    U.S., which monitors seismic activity worldwide.
    "There are no buoys in the Indian Ocean and that's
    where this tsunami occurred."" (Hindu, 27 Dec 2004)

    The issue of the Ocean sensors is a Red Herring

    We we were not able to warn them because we had no
    sensors in the Indian Ocean: This argument is a Red
    Herring.

    We are not dealing with advanced information based on
    the Ocean sensors, but on an emergency warning
    transmitted in the immediate wake of the earthquake.
    The latter took place at 00.58 GMT on the 26th of Dec.
    That information was sent to The State Department and
    the US Navy.

    With modern communications, the information of an
    impending disaster could have been sent around the
    World in a matter of minutes, by email, by telephone,
    by fax, not to mention by live satellite Television.

    Coastguards, municipalities, local governments,
    tourist hotels, etc. could have been warned.

    According to Tsunami Society President Prof. Tad Murty
    of the University of Manitoba:

    'there's no reason for a single individual to get
    killed in a tsunami,' since most areas had anywhere
    from 25 minutes to four hours before a wave hit. So,
    once again, because of indifference and corruption
    thousands of innocent people have died needlessly."
    (Calgary Sun, 28 Dec 2004)

    Key Questions

    1. Why were the Indian Ocean countries' governments
    not informed?

    Were there "guidelines" from the US military or the
    State Department regarding the release of an advanced
    warning?

    According to the statement of the Hawaii based PTWC,
    advanced warning was released but on a selective
    basis. Indonesia was already hit, so the warning was
    in any event redundant and Australia was several
    thousand miles from the epicentre of the earthquake
    and was, therefore, under no immediate threat.

    2. Did US authorities monitoring seismographic data
    have knowledge of the earthquake prior to its actual
    occurrence at 00.57 GMT on the 26th of December?

    The question is whether there were indications of
    abnormal seismic activity prior to 01.00 GMT on the
    26th of Dec.

    The US Geological Survey confirmed that the earthquake
    which triggered the tidal wave measured 9.0 on the
    Richter scale and was the fourth largest quake since
    1900. In such cases, one would expect evidence of
    abnormal seismic activity before the actual occurrence
    of a major earthquake.

    3. Why is the US military Calling the Shots on
    Humanitarian Relief

    Why in the wake of the disaster, is the US military
    (rather than civilian humanitarian/aid organizations
    operating under UN auspices) taking a lead role?

    The US Pacific Command has been designated to
    coordinate the channeling of emergency relief? Marine
    Corps Lt. Gen. Rusty Blackman, commander of the 3rd
    Marine Expeditionary Force based in Okinawa, has been
    designated to lead the emergency relief program

    Lieutenant General Blackman was previously Chief of
    Staff for Coalition Forces Land Component Command,
    responsible for leading the Marines into Baghdad
    during "Operation Iraqi Freedom."

    Three "Marine disaster relief assessment teams" under
    Blackman's command have been sent to Thailand, Sri
    Lanka and Indonesia.

    US military aircraft are conducting observation
    missions.

    In a bitter irony, part of this operation is being
    coordinated out of America's Naval base in Diego
    Garcia, which was not struck by the tidal wave.
    Meanwhile, "USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group,
    which was in Hong Kong when the earthquake and
    tsunamis struck, has been diverted to the Gulf of
    Thailand to support recovery operations" (Press
    Conference of Pacific Command,
    http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Dec2...004122905.html
    ).

    Two Aircraft Carriers have been sent to the region.

    Why is it necessary for the US to mobilize so much
    military equipment? The pattern is unprecedented:

    Conway said the Lincoln carrier strike group has 12
    helicopters embarked that he said could be "extremely
    valuable" in recovery missions.

    An additional 25 helicopters are aboard USS Bonhomme
    Richard, headed to the Bay of Bengal. Conway said the
    expeditionary strike group was in Guam and is forgoing
    port visits in Guam and Singapore and expects to
    arrive in the Bay of Bengal by Jan. 7.

    Conway said the strike group, with its seven ships,
    2,100 Marines and 1,400 sailors aboard, also has four
    Cobra helicopters that will be instrumented in
    reconnaissance efforts.

    Because fresh water is one of the greatest needs in
    the region, Fargo has ordered seven ships — each
    capable of producing 90,000 gallons of fresh water a
    day — to the region. Conway said five of these ships
    are pre-positioned in Guam and two will come from
    Diego Garcia.

    A field hospital ship pre-positioned in Guam would
    also be ordered to the region, depending on findings
    of the disaster relief assessment teams and need,
    Conway said. (Ibid)

    Why has a senior commander involved in the invasion of
    Iraq been assigned to lead the US emergency relief
    program?


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    The Tsunami Timeline

    Sunday 26 December 2004 (GMT)

    00.57 GMT: Between 00.57 GMT and 00.59 GMT, an 8.9
    magnitude earthquake occurs on the seafloor near Aceh
    in northern Indonesia. (See
    http://ioc.unesco.org/itsu/ and other reports)

    00.58 GMT: Saturday 25 December, 2.58 pm Hawaii Time
    (GMT-10) 26 Dec 00.58 GMT. US government's Pacific
    Tsunami Warning Center registers the earthquake on its
    seismic instruments. In other words at the time of its
    occurrence at 00.58 GMT.

    shortly after 01.00 GMT: Earthquake hits several
    cities in Indonesia, creates panic in urban areas in
    peninsular Malaysia. The news of the earthquakes is
    reported immediately.

    01.3O GMT: Phuket and Coast of Thailand: The tidal
    wave hits to coastline shortly after 8.30 am, 01.30
    GMT

    02.30 GMT: Colombo Sri Lanka and Eastern Coast of Sri
    Lanka, the tidal wave hits the coastal regions close
    to the capital Colombo, according to report at 8.30 am
    local time, 02.30 GMT (an hour and a half after the
    earthqake)

    02.45 GMT: India's Eastern Coastline. The tsunami hits
    India's eastern coast from 6:15 a.m.(2:45 GMT)

    04.00 GMT: Male, Maldives: From about 9:00 am (0400
    GMT), three hours after the earthquake, the capital,
    Male, and other parts of the country were flooded by
    the tsunami. (more than three hours after the
    earthquake)

    11.00 GMT (approximate time according to news
    dispatches): East Coast of Africa is hit. More than
    ten hours after the earthquake

    The animation below indicates approximate times at
    which the tidal wave hits the coastal areas of
    Indonesia, Thailand, Myanmar, Malaysia, Sri Lanka,
    India, Bangladesh, The Maldives. (see original link)

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    In the Times of India newspaper of Jan. 04, 2005, the
    news is that ALL the five tribes in the Andaman
    Nicobar Islands saved themselves by observing the
    behavior of birds and marine animals and then going
    deep into the forest.
    Ratan.

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    I just looked at them Michelle. I think it's OK. Slow to load?

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