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    QUOTE "sorry to rain on your parade, but their socialist healthcare system and unemployment problems cannot handle anyone moving there, taking jobs away from citizens. " END QUOTE

    hmmm...sounds like THEY have it right.
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    Didi, thanks for the links, much appreciated. We used to have a satellite dish that we had coded for the Dutch channels (rtl's, veronica, and the basics free things) but we moved to NZ and back so we no longer have it.



    I cringe at the word immigration anymore; mine to Germany wasn't bad since I am married to an German but going to NZ wasn't fun.

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    No, we wouldn't retire there, (perhaps it wasn't written like I meant it to come out) I was just thinking out loud, you know that they always list "places to retire to" but it's usually somewhere on the beach type of place. I haven't really heard of places in Europe where they list as one of those retirement places.

    When you own farm land, you can rent it out and make enough to live a very comfortable life on the rent payment you received, we own enough to make that happen, just not as of yet though. I never checked into the visa's yet just because it's just a thought at this time.

    When you moved (either for a long period of time or short) did you learn the language of the country you lived in? I thought I would try to learn Gaelic (sp?) at least to make decent conversation if needed. I can't complain about people learning to speak english here if I'm not going to at least try to learn where ever it is we live a few months out of the year, whether that would be Gaelic, Italian, French or for that matter Russian

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    I can answer many questions as I am sure the others can too. However, I am concerned though that you have not even looked at Visa's yet. I think you may be getting your hopes up high. Most places in Europe will require you to be sponsored by a company with a certain amount of income depending upon what career it is. If you looking at a business visa, the amount of capital you are required to have will be large. We have a lot of countries joining the EU with that a lot of migration going on, so immigration has seen some overhauling in the last few years.

    It took us 2 years to get approved to NZ, the application processes wait alone was 9-10 months, just so they can say we have prospect as migrants and now they will need medicals, criminal reports, employment history, contact details and so forth and so forth and so forth.


    As far as the language, I didn't know a word till I was here but then I registered in several German classes. That was in 1998, my German still sucks.

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    We haven't really looked up any visa regulations because it would probably a good while before we would purchase a part time home, we are just weighing our options of where we would think we would like to go, if because of visa rules and we can't move to Ireland then we will remove that from our wish list and move on to the next one. Perhaps I should look into the visa's sooner than later

    I think when you sit there and watch shows like House Hunters International, I have seen some of the shows where they move to like France, but there is no job involved? But I'm grateful for everyones input just because we have no experience with the rules and regulations of living overseas.

    When you travel for vacation oversea's, I always assumed you can just head over there (anywhere) as long as you have a passport? Is that part correct? It's funny, but we have lived in almost all area's in the states because of my dh's job, but it's a much bigger world out there.

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    when we moved to england the real estate agent wouldn't show us properties until we had our preliminary visa work done. we had to show him our letter from halliburton explaining that we were here for business for one year and they attached the proof from the "Home Office" that our papers were in order. our offical visa came about a month later with stamped visa in our passports Leave to stay one year". then we registered immediately for national healthcare and got an NHS number. Then we "existed" legally.

    are you aware that more than half of your income will go to taxes and you still have to pay income tax in the US. double taxation. make sure the company sponsoring you is taking care of the double taxation thing.
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    Lots of countries require you to obtain even visitors visa's before entering their countries. You cannot even board the plane to some destinations without proof, possible forfeiting the cost of your plane tickets as well if you didn't buy flexible ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by englishcottage1 View Post
    When you travel for vacation oversea's, I always assumed you can just head over there (anywhere) as long as you have a passport?
    no, you can go as a tourist with no right to work, and no recourse to public funds. a tourist may stay for three months out of the year.

    edited: ireland only allows 90 days
    On Arrival in Ireland
    All non-EU citizens, whether visa-required or not, will be subject to ordinary immigration controls at the port of entry.

    The length of stay permitted (including for those bearing a visa) is decided by an Immigration Officer at the port of entry, will reflect the purpose of the journey for which any visa was granted and will be noted on your passport.

    Those bearing a visa should note that the validity period shown on the visa indicates only the dates between which the visa must be presented to an Immigration Officer at a port of entry - the validity period dates noted on the visa are NOT the dates between which you are permitted to remain in Ireland.

    All non EU nationals who wish to stay longer than 3 months in Ireland must register with the Garda National Immigration Bureau and apply for permission to remain in Ireland. For further information on registration and residence in Ireland please click here.

    Visa-required nationals who wish to stay longer than 90 days should apply for a 'D' type visa in advance of travel. In general, permission to enter on the basis of a 'C' type visa will not give rise to permission to remain beyond a 90 day period.

    A visa applicant who submitted false or misleading information in support of his/her application may become liable for prosecution and/or subject to deportation.

    You are not permitted under Irish law to involve yourself in any other activity or to remain in the State for any purpose other than that for which the visa or permission to remain was specifically granted.

    A person wishing to undertake any activity in Ireland other than that for which his/her visa was granted must leave the State and apply for a new visa. The applicant may not return to Ireland while awaiting a decision on his/her new application

    A person who remains in the State longer than the permitted period may become liable for prosecution and/or subject to deportation.
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    I would like to add, just in case it comes up... If you live in Ireland for those 90 days, you have to depart Europe for I believe 180 days before you can come in again on another Tourist Visa.

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    Ireland News today:

    Events have already forced Premier Brian Cowen to carry out the harshest assault yet seen on the public services of a modern Western state. He has passed two emergency budgets to stop the deficit soaring to 15pc of GDP. They have not been enough. The expert An Bord Snip report said last week that Dublin must cut deeper, or risk a disastrous debt compound trap.

    A further 17,000 state jobs must go (equal to 1.25m in the US), though unemployment is already 12pc and heading for 16pc next year.

    Education must be cut 8pc. Scores of rural schools must close, and 6,900 teachers must go. "The attacks outlined in this report would represent an education disaster and light a short fuse on a social timebomb", said the Teachers Union of Ireland.

    Nobody is spared. Social welfare payments must be cut 5pc, child benefit by 20pc. The Garda (police), already smarting from a 7pc pay cut, may have to buy their own uniforms. Hospital visits could cost £107 a day, etc, etc.

    "Something has to give," said Professor Colm McCarthy, the report's author. "We're borrowing €400m (£345m) a week at a penalty interest."



    taken from this article Fiscal-ruin-of-the-Western-world-beckons

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    Alot of things to take into consideration, thanks for bringing to my attention and some things I would have never thought of.

    I guess the way we would have to would be of the self supporting route. I read (but just briefly, I need to read more) that many countries would allow you to live there under this catagory because; your not taking jobs away, your paying taxes, your putting income into the local stores, etc.

    Most countries that require a visa for just a visit, I don't really want to visit at this point, right now anyway. I guess regarding taxes I would be more worried of the taxes having to pay abroad. We do not live in a high taxed area as many who might be reading this do. Our house & property tax is very little.

    I guess I always thought there was less involved if I ever wanted to live abroad just for the fact that here in the States, people just seem to get on a plane and fly over, or run across the border and becomes "american", although I do understand that we have a much larger area of livable space than a lot of countries, although I think it's shrinking in size now.

    I'm sorry to see Ireland (as well as many countries) are having so many worries, thanks for posting that.

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    Hi englishcottage1, I am Irish and would be more than happy to answer any questions you may have. Just to give you a flavour of Ireland, it has rained nearly every day this summer! London has more defined seasons than us. We have shopping malls but here they are called shopping centres not as big as the US but there are only 4.5 millon people in Ireland. Mayo is in the west of Ireland and can be quite rural and cold with the Atlantic on its doorstep. Most of our TV shows come from the US, but we are usually a couple of seasons behind. Diving on the opposite side of the road can be difficult at roundabouts again it is just a matter of getting used to it. Some of our terminology is very different, I am facinated at the idea of knitting dish cloths, can they be soaked in bleach?

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    Oh but shandyr..........when it stops raining in Ireland it is such a lush green that you have to see it to believe it. The camera can't even capture it!

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    ShandyR, Thanks for the offer

    I actually like rainy days, perhaps it would have some getting used to if it happened almost everyday, but I agree, it's what makes the green, green . As far as cold, I live in South Dakota, the average winter temp is in the upper 20'F (-6C) and if you could see the picture from outside my front door, you would see that I know rural, LOL.

    Where is Meath located?

    It's funny about the tv shows, I started watching Keeping up appearances and are you being served on our public tv a couple of years ago and now I have the dvd's of the series, but what, the shows were done in the 70's & early 80's, talk about a few season's behind, LOL.

    Are there any thatched roofed cottages any more in Ireland? I also noticed (at least in the photo's of houses for sale) there is some cement around the bases of houses, is this common and why or was it just for some reason just these houses?

    I don't have an answer for your knitting dish cloths question? Perhaps someone might have the answer if they read this forum, you might want to ask the question in the question and answer forum, I'm sure someone will have the answer for you

    Where is

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    There are 32 counties in Ireland (like states). Meath is north of Dublin (capital city) and is on the east coast. If you google Hill of Tara I live quite near and walk my dog there every night. It is a very historic area and one of the tombs was constructed in 3400 BC. Keeping Up Appearances and Are you being Served are very English. Have you seen a film called "The Committments"? This is a good representation of Dublin. It is very very green here at the moment!! As we say about the rain "Another soft day". We need vitamin D badly at this stage. Is the concrete inside or outside the houses? There are some thatched cottages but they are very expensive to insure and the thatch has to be redone every 15 years. I know of 2 in my immediate area. Where is Dakota?

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