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Ladies, I received this in an email. I in no way want to offend anyone, I just thought it was interesting.

LET"S COMPARE

This is a long, yet telling and interesting e-mail. The time it takes to read is WORTH it...

At a time when opinions are flying here, there, every where, it is important they be formed based on logic, reason, and fact. Though everybody's opinions deserved respect and consideration (at least i try :)), the source MUST also be considered while evaluating the legitimacy of such opinions. Personally, education and experience carry more weight in my mind than a pretty face, nice clothes, and ability to memorize a script...call me crazy ;) ANYHOO, just ANOTHER opinion to consider...
P.S.Condoleezza Rice..YOU GO GIRL ! WOW

Our Hollywood Weapons Inspector, Sean Penn is a great example... The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding anti-war rallies, screaming about the Bush Administration, running ads in major newspapers, defaming the President and his Cabinet every chance they get, to anyone and everyone who will listen. They publicly defile them and call them names like"stupid", "morons", and "idiots". Jessica Lange went so far as to tell a crowd in
Spain that she hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an American.

So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country? Let's look at the biographies of these "stupid", "ignorant", "moronic" leaders,
and then at the celebrities who are castigating them:

President George W. Bush

Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard. He began his career in the oil and gas business in Midland in 1975 and worked in the energy industry until 1986. He was elected Governor on November 8, 1994, with 53.5 percent of the vote. In a historic re-election victory, he became the first Texas Governor to be elected to consecutive
four-year terms on November 3, 1998 winning 68.6 percent of the vote. In 1998 Governor Bush won 49 percent of the Hispanic vote, 27 percent of the African-American vote, 27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of women. He won more Texas counties, 240 of 254, than any modern Republican other that
Richard Nixon in 1972 and is the first Republican gubernatorial candidate to win the heavily Hispanic and Democratic border counties of El Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo. (Someone began circulating a false story about his I.Q. being lower than any other President. If you believed it, you might want to go to
Urban Legends.Com and see the truth.)

Vice President Dick Cheney

Earned a B.A. in 1965 and a M.A. in 1966, both in political science. Two years later, he won an American Political Science Association congressional fellowship. One of Vice President Cheney's primary duties is to share with individuals, members of Congress and foreign leaders, President Bush's vision to strengthen our economy, secure our homeland and win the War on
Terrorism. In his official role as President of the Senate, Vice President Cheney regularly goes to Capital Hill to meet with Senators and members of the House of Representatives to work on the Administration's legislative goals. In his travels as Vice President, he has seen first hand the great demands the war on terrorism is placing on the men and women of our military, and he is proud of the tremendous job they are doing for the
United States of America.

Secretary of State Colin Powell

Educated in the New York City public schools, graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY), where he earned a Bachelor's Degree in geology. He also participated in ROTC at CCNY and received a commission as an Army second lieutenant upon graduation in June 1958. His further academic achievements include a Master of Business Administration Degree from George
Washington University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of numerous U.S. and foreign military awards and decorations. Secretary Powell's civilian awards include two Presidential Medals of Freedom, the President's Citizens Medal, the Congressional Gold Medal, the Secretary of State Distinguished Service Medal, and the Secretary of Energy Distinguished Service Medal.
Several schools and other institutions have been named in his honor and he holds honorary degrees from universities and colleges across the country.

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld

Attended Princeton University on Scholarship (AB, 1954) and served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval aviator. Congressional Assistant to Rep. Robert Griffin (R-MI), 1957-59; U.S. Representative, Illinois, 1962-69; Assistant to the President, Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity, Director of the Cost of Living Council, 1969-74; U.S. Ambassador to NATO,
1973-74; head of Presidential Transition Team, 1974; Assistant to the President, Director of White House Office of Operations, White House Chief of Staff, 1974-77; Secretary of Defense, 1975-77. Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge Raised in a working class family in veterans' public housing in Erie. He earned a scholarship to Harvard, graduating with honors in 1967. After his first year at The Dickinson School of Law, he was drafted into the U.S. Army, where he served as an infantry staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star for Valor. After returning to Pennsylvania, he earned his Law Degree and was in private
practice before becoming Assistant District Attorney in Erie County. He was elected to Congress in 1982. He was the first enlisted Vietnam combat veteran elected to the U.S. House, and was overwhelmingly re-elected six times.

National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice

Earned her Bachelor's Degree in Political Science, Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. (Note: Rice enrolled at the University of Denver at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with
a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science (Cum Laude). She earned a Master's Degree at the University of Notre Dame and a Doctorate from the University of Denver's Graduate School of International Studies. Both of her advanced degrees are also in Political Science.) She is a Fellow of the AmericanAcademy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in 1995. At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the
Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican National Conventions. From
1989 through March 1991, the period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the
Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender -- Integrated Training in the Military. She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University
of Notre Dame, the International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula. In addition, her past board service
has encompassed such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East
European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco. Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her bachelor's degree in political science, cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School
of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in 1995. She resides in Washington, D.C.

So, who are these pompous, outspoken celebrity critics?
What is their education? What is their experience in affairs of State or in National Security? While I will defend to the death their right to express their opinions, I think that if they are going to call into question the intelligence of our leaders, we should also have all the facts on their education and background:

Barbra Streisand

Completed high school
Career: Singing and acting

Cher

Dropped out of school in 9th grade.
Career: Singing and acting

Martin Sheen

Flunked exam to enter University of Dayton.
Career: Acting

Jessica Lange

Dropped out college mid-freshman year.
Career: Acting

Alec Baldwin

Dropped out of George Washington U. after scandal
Career: Acting

Julia Roberts


Completed high school
Career: Acting

Sean Penn

Completed High school
Career: Acting

Susan Sarandon
Degree in Drama from Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C.
Career: Acting

Ed Asner

Completed High school
Career: Acting

George Clooney

Dropped out of University of Kentucky
Career: Acting

Michael Moore

Dropped out first year University of Michigan.
Career: Movie Director

Sarah Jessica Parker

Completed High School
Career: Acting

Jennifer Anniston

Completed High School
Career: Acting

Mike Farrell

Completed High school
Career: Acting

Janeane Garofelo

Dropped out of College.
Career: Stand up comedienne

Larry Hagman

Attended Bard College for one year.
Career: Acting

While comparing the education and experience of these two groups, we should also remember that President Bush and his cabinet are briefed daily, even hourly, on the War on Terror and threats to our security. They are privy to information gathered around the world concerning the Middle East, the threats to America, the intentions of terrorists and terrorist-supporting
governments. They are in constant communication with the CIA, the FBI, Interpol, NATO, The United Nations, our own military, and that of our allies around the world. We cannot simply believe that we have full knowledge of the threats because we watch CNN!! We cannot believe that we are in any way as informed as our leaders.

These celebrities have no intelligence-gathering agents, no fact-finding groups, no insight into the minds of those who would destroy our country. They only have a deep-seated hatred for all things Republican. By nature, and no one knows quite why, the Hollywood elitists detest Conservative views and anything that supports or uplifts the United States of America. The silence was deafening from the Left when Bill Clinton bombed a
pharmaceutical factory outside of Khartoum, or when he attacked the Bosnian Serbs in 1995 and 1999. He bombed Serbia itself to get Slobodan Milosevic out of Kosovo, and not a single peace rally was held. When our Rangers were ambushed in Somalia and 18 young American lives were lost,not a peep was heard from Hollywood. Yet now, after our nation has been attacked on its own soil, after 3,000 Americans were killed by freedom-hating terrorists while going about their routine lives, they want to hold rallies against the war.

Why the change?
Because an honest, God-fearing Republican sits in the White House.Another irony is that in 1987, when Ronald Reagan was in office, the Hollywood group aligned themselves with disarmament groups like SANE, FREEZE and PEACE ACTION, urging our own government to disarm and freeze the manufacturing of any further nuclear weapons, in order to promote world peace. It is curious that now, even after we have heard all the evidence
that Saddam Hussein has chemical, biological and is very close to obtaining nuclear weapons, their is no cry from this group for HIM to disarm. They believe we should leave him alone in his quest for these weapons of mass destruction, even though it is certain that these deadly weapons will eventually be used against us in our own cities.So why the hype out of Hollywood? Could these celebrities believe that since they draw such astronomical salaries, they are entitled to also determine the course of our Nation? That they can make viable decisions concerning war
and peace? Did Michael Moore have the backing of the Nation when he recently thanked France, on our behalf, for being a "good enough friend to tell us we were wrong"? I know for certain he was not speaking for me. Does Sean Penn fancy himself a diplomat, in going to Iraq when we are just weeks away from war? Does he believe that his high school diploma gives him the knowledge (and the right) to go to a country that is controlled by a maniacal dictator, and speak on behalf of the American people? Or is it the fact that he pulls in more money per year than the average American worker will see in a lifetime? Does his bank account give him clout?

The ultimate irony is that many of these celebrities have made a shambles of their own lives, with drug abuse, alcoholism, numerous marriages and divorces, scrapes with the law, publicized temper tantrums, etc. How dare they pretend to know what is best for an entire nation! What is even more bizarre is how many people in this country will listen and accept their
views, simply because they liked them in a certain movie, or have fond memories of an old television sitcom!

It is time for us, as citizens of the United States, to educate ourselves about the world around us. If future generations are going to enjoy the freedoms that our forefathers bequeathed us, if they are ever to know peace in their own country and their world, to live without fear of terrorism striking in their own cities, we must assure that this nation remains strong. We must make certain that those who would destroy us are made aware
of the severe consequences that will befall them. Yes, it is a wonderful dream to sit down with dictators and terrorists and join hands, singing Cumbaya and talking of world peace. But it is not real.

We did not stop Adolf Hitler from taking over the entire continent of Europe by simply talking to him. We sent our best and brightest, with the strength and determination that this Country is known for, and defeated the Nazi regime. President John F. Kennedy did not stop the Soviet ships from unloading their nuclear missiles in Cuba in 1962 with mere words. He stopped them with action, and threat of immediate war if the ships did not turn around. We did not end the Cold War with conferences. It ended with the strong belief of President Ronald Reagan... PEACE through STRENGTH.
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While I agree with this email, I am a republican and proud to be one, as well as honored to have G. W. being a Texan.
I think they miss one huge thing here. The hollywood crowd needs to be the center of attention! They can not stand for anyone to take their limelight, especially if it tells them the way they live is wrong. They were silent for Clinton because he made them all look normal.
I was a governess for one in the hollywood crowd, no one truly famous anymore, and she told me that they will do ANYTHING to make their names appear in print, and the more "wrong" the better.
They thrive on negative attention! Since the only way they are "elected" is through the $$ we all spend, I won't spend any on the ones decrying our government.
They call it now the "Bush regime". They are lucky to live under it, if they pulled any of this under their friend Saddam they would be dead or wish they were!
Now I am NOT saying I hate democrats! I may not agree with them all the time, ok most of the time, but I will defend to the death our right to disagree. Just know the facts, all of them before you decide, and do not use your fame, or money to ram your ideas down my throat.
 

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They can all afford to move if they don't like America.
 

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I got this in the mail too Dee. Food for thought indeed...Who knows more about the ins & outs of military actions and foriegn policy? An actor/singer or someone who's education and career is all about knowing such things? Duh...

And Mel~:clap:
 

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No comparison, as for Jessica Lange, she should be embarrassed, of herself!
 

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You know, Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger threatened to go to Canada if Bush was elected. WHY ARE THEY STILL HERE????????
Don't let the door hit you in the A$$!

Thanks for sharing Diana. Celebrities need to shut their traps. :soapbox:
 

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I'm glad we have a president with enough [email protected] to stand up to these terrorists! Many people feel it should have ended with Desert Storm.

Dh told me about an interveiw with a widow of one of our soldiers. She is left with 2 young children. She asked that the US government "finish" what they started, so her husbands death would not be for nothing.
 

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Thank you Diana for an enlightening article. I could not agree more. Like Mel, I am from Texas and I am very proud to have GW in the White House. I think he has done an outstanding job and that he will be remembered as a remarkable president when the history books record this period of history.

I totally agree with the other's if the celebrities are not happy here, they have plenty of money to leave. I hear they can get a real deal on a fixer upper palace in Iraq :D .
 

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Ladies, I too agreed with the article.

Kathy, I like your way of thinking! :D
 

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I say amen too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I'm proud to say that there are a lot of wonderfully intelligent women on this site! Yessiree! Glad you're my friends and couldn't agree with you more!
 

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I completely agree.
 

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Another resounding AMEN here!!! Just because Martin Sheen portrays the president on West Wing he thinks he is President. All celebrities need a reality check. I say we pool together, charter a plane, and drop their behinds over some third world country since they hate the US so much. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!
 
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