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Your mind can be a very strong tool, it will work either for or against you. Accepting whatever you feed it with, without judgement.

I KNOW this statement to be true however teaching it new things can be much easier said than done! When we change our 'mind talk' sometimes it fights against us for a while, it's not used to hearing things like 'I love you just the way you are' and it will come back with 'actually you're stupid and ugly, remember when you did this or that'

Using affirmations is a very effective tool - it also takes time and practice.

Here is another edited article from the book Relaxation in a Week by Pat and Colin Dyke. I really hope some of the practical suggestions will be helpful to people, but it is worth remembering we are not all alike, all things are worth trying but some won't be for 'you' - that's ok. It doesn't mean it's wrong or NOTHING will work, it's just another thing to use or eliminate.

Here it is:
Internal Processes

If you are a car driver or a passenger you may have noticed if you don't change gear going up hill there is a reaction from the engine. Have you analysed t process as to what causes you to change gear?

Is it the visual view of the hill?

Is it the sound of the engine labouring?

Is it the feel of the car juddering?

If you relate this to your own life do you take note of your internal senses when they are warning you that you are over-stretching yourself? As an individual do you see life as an uphill struggle? Do you rush at it and run out of energy half way up the hill? (that would be ME ;) - Bev x )

If you pace yourself and go up the hill in an appropriate way you would reach the top with a sense of achievement and energy in abundance to deal with other matters.

As you become more aware of your internal processes, the way in which your mind and body react to current external situations, then you are more able to adjust to and cope with them.

Sit quietly for a moment and notice your own internal processes.

Are you giving yourself the message 'I will not be able to get through all I have to do today'?

Is your mind going round and round?

How are you feeling inside?

Is your *breathing* slow or fast?

Are you sitting in a relaxed position?

Once you become aware of what is happening inside yourself you have the opportunity of taking control and becoming more positive. Choose to review quietly what you would like to achieve during the day. Be honest with yourself and make this a probability rather than a possibility.


I can as always, give more details on practical excercises, if I haven't made them clear.

If it helps just one person, it has been worthwhile.

Best Wishes and LOTS of love to those suffering and in recovery. :hugz:
Bev. xxx
 

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Thank-you so much Bev for this information! :)

About this, which is often my case:

do you take note of your internal senses when they are warning you that you are over-stretching yourself? As an individual do you see life as an uphill struggle? Do you rush at it and run out of energy half way up the hill?
and to reslove it, you say:

Sit quietly for a moment and notice your
own internal processes.
Are you giving yourself the message
'I will not be able to get through
all I have to do today'?
Yes, that's what I'm saying, but that's how I'm feeling in those times...

Once you become aware of what is
happening inside yourself you have the
opportunity of taking control and becoming
more positive. Choose to review quietly
what you would like to achieve
during the day. Be honest with yourself
and make this a probability rather than
a possibility.
Does it work the first time? It probably takes time to naturally be able to change our negatives thoughts...

I'm going to try this. I really want it to work!:)

Thank-you so much Bev!
 

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:bump: Did you see my reply, Bev? and when is step #3? :D Thanks!:hugz:
 

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Sorry Lucie, for not answering this - how awful of me! I'm a manic depressive ;) (no, no excuse I know)

Anyway, yes it does take time and constant effort, alot of the things that go through our (ok MY) head and response thoughts to things can almost be automatic, our thoughts can be habits, or even borrowed responses to influentual people in our childhood.

It is like any new skill, it takes practice and I, at least have to keep pulling myself up constantly thinking 'I don't want that thought, it's not working for me' - Everything, and most feelings start with a single thought and we can change our thoughts for our own health and success. It is like brainwashing ourselves with positive thoughts instead of constantly putting ourselves down. Which seems to come natural to alot of us.

I am working on new info constantly (even just in my own life) these are not the 'steps' as practiced in 12 step meetings, but merely simple practical ways I thought may be of help and use.

I will post some more as soon as I can if there is interest and it is helping people, I didn't want to appear like I was trying to be 'clever' - I'm not a doctor and it isn't anything 'new' but I am happy to post different ideas and view-points if they are of help to people. I just have to gather information that isn't 'too' long and boring to read. LOL.

Lots of Love to you in your recovery (((hugs))) If I can ever be of any help, please PM me.

Much Love
Bev. xxxx
 

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I will post some more as soon as I can if there is interest and it is helping people, I didn't want to appear like I was trying to be 'clever' - I'm not a doctor and it isn't anything 'new' but I am happy to post different ideas and view-points if they are of help to people. I just have to gather information that isn't 'too' long and boring to read. LOL.
I am looking forward to your posts, Bev. I am sure, that even if people don't respond to them, your posts will be very helpful. Depression is not normally a popular topic, but it would certainly help to talk about it, instead of keeping it all inside.

And....You are never boring, OK!? :hugz: I find you are very good at explaining.

Thank-you so much! :)

I sure will PM you sometime soon. I have so many questions and maybe we can encourage ourselves, when we feel down...:heartsm:

Lucie ((hugs))
 

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I just wanted to thank you for the information. I too tell myself the awefull things and get myself in a horrible mindset. I appreciate the ideas of how to bring myself out of this.

Bev, you're doing so well with this depression/mania thread. I for one am just beginning to come out of long depressive mood and just reading your affirming coments is helping me so much.

You explain very well and you're not boring at all.

Thank you.
 
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